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Sombeech



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Little Creek ATV damage  

Just thought I'd share with you this thread on UMB. It's totally derailed, emotional, and hilarious; but still some info on the ATV damage there.

Try to stay focused.

http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/UMBphpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3877
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Summit42



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject:  

I am pissed you want to ban alcohol.......
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Sombeech



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject:  

Summit42 wrote: I am pissed you want to ban alcohol.......

It's the only way, man.
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Summit42



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject:  

you could just ban atvs
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Sombeech



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject:  

and guns.

That's the thing people don't understand, ATVs are banned from singletrack already.
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Skylinerider



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject:  

and air.

A man can't breath; he can't ride.
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Summit42



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject:  

but i use air my bike tires... I guess i could fill them with alcohol, if thats ok with you beech.
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Sombeech



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject:  

Summit42 wrote: but i use air my bike tires... I guess i could fill them with alcohol, if thats ok with you beech.

That's crossing the line.
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scoutabout



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject:  

Uh, wow. What did it look like before? I'm having a hard time seeing the damage? It looks like a lot more than one ATV. It would take quite a few runs to turn a single track into such a well defined two-track as seen in the photos.
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ExpUt



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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject:  

Ditto... scoutabouts comments.

Regardless, I didn't waste my time reading past page one, but everything I read indicated it was a legal SAR effort... did I miss something?

Edit, my curiosity got the cat... I read it all.

Sombeech, great comments by the way... "charging for rail" just cracked me up :haha:
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Sombeech



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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah, they just saw some tracks, and classified it as damage. I was down there this weekend, and there's a rock quarry in the area. I'm starting to think it was a bobcat trail, judging by the tire width and tracks.
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bbennett



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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject:  

Quote: I'm starting to think it was a bobcat trail, judging by the tire width and tracks.

I thought it was a tractor :haha:
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live2ride



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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject:  

I just get sick of the complaining in this thread on UMB.com. I would much rather someone get there life saved and ruin a little singletrack in the process rather than someone die. I know we are all guilty of complaining about trails getting ruined and abused but everyone shares a part of the trail and should work on themselves respecting all trails. I was impressed about how clean the J.E.M. trail was, no garbage at the trail head and only a couple pieces along the trail which I picked up and put in my camel back.
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moabfool



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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject:  

live2ride wrote: I just get sick of the complaining in this thread on UMB.com. I would much rather someone get there life saved and ruin a little singletrack in the process rather than someone die. I know we are all guilty of complaining about trails getting ruined and abused but everyone shares a part of the trail and should work on themselves respecting all trails. I was impressed about how clean the J.E.M. trail was, no garbage at the trail head and only a couple pieces along the trail which I picked up and put in my camel back.

I was out there two weeks ago and saw the damage myself. It was definitely a 4-wheeler. If it was a life threatening situation they would've needed to evacuate using a helecopter, and there are plenty of places to land a helecopter on the slickrock. The ambulance stops where the pavement ends so don't tell me it was a short distance and they needed the 4-wheeler to move the victim that little bit.

So maybe they did need motorized transportation to get the medical personel to the scene. :ne_nau: Did they have to take a 4-wheeler? What's wrong with a motorcycle? The problem with taking a 4-wheeler is that now every yahoo on a 4-wheeler is going to see the tracks and follow the trail. Just a few passes caused some pretty heavy damage. Unless something is done and quick things will go to crap and nothing will stop it short of a very long fence (and even that probably won't work).
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Skylinerider



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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject:  

moabfool wrote:
So maybe they did need motorized transportation. Did they have to take a 4-wheeler? What's wrong with a motorcycle? The problem with a 4-wheeler is that now every yahoo on a 4-wheeler is going to see the tracks and follow the trail. Just a few passes caused some pretty heavy damage. Unless something is done and quick things will go to crap pretty quick.

You ever try to haul a stretcher on a motorcycle?
:roflol:
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