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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Findmespot - Satellite Messaging GPS / PLB  

This is the perfect Christmas Gift.



Gary has these over at ATVUtah.com
http://www.atvutah.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1193180965/0#5

I REALLY like this. In fact I think EVERY Skier, hunter, hiker and offroader should own this device.

Its better than a PLB. (personal locater beacon)

It is basically a GPS, with the ability to send messages via satellite and call for 911 type help anywhere in the world.

I particularly like the fact that you can send a non-emergency help message.
"I need gas or a ride home" type message via SMS to your friends cell phone.

It means you can get help without calling the cavalry.

You can also send a second message "Everything is good, wish you were here" type message.

AND if that is not enough you can allow people to track you on the web, it will send its location every 10 minutes and post it on your website.

Best of all its CHEAP at $149 compared to a PLB at about $600. Yes you have service charges on top of that for the spot but it will take 4+ years to equal the cost of a PLB.

I love the marketing "Its your story, live to tell about it."
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject:  

I took my Spot to Glamis over Thanksgiving.

Works great, people in camp were happy to get a message when we out riding longer than expected.

This thing is very cool.
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Glockguy



Joined: 28 Jul 2005
Posts: 305

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject:  

Very cool.
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject:  

AAAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Get a SPOT!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/ap_on_re_us/snowmobilers_found

DOUBLE AARRRGGGHHHH!

Two skiers remained missing Monday. Searchers in a helicopter and on snowmobiles took advantage of a break in the weather to resume looking for them at Wolf Creek Pass, about 40 miles northwest of Cumbres Pass.

The men, missing since Saturday, were in their mid-20s and their car had New Mexico license plates, but their names had not been released.


Folks this is JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jaxx



Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 1477

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject:  

If only it would work as an avalanche beacon it would be the ultimate!!!!!
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject:  

Obviously it helps in an avalanche.


SNOWMOBILERS AIDING AVALANCHE VICTIMS USE SPOT SATELLITE MESSENGER TO SEND 9-1-1 MESSAGE FOR HELP

GPS Device Sends Location Data and Alert Message to Emergency Responders

Milpitas, Calif. (January 7, 2008) – When Natalie Bertsch bought her husband a GPS-enabled SPOT™ Satellite Messenger for Christmas, little did she know that only a week later he would use SPOT while coming to the aid of four friends swept away in an avalanche near Laramie, Wyoming. On Jan. 2, 2008, Brian Bertsch contacted an emergency 9-1-1 call center by pressing a single button on his handheld SPOT.

A group of snowmobilers were riding when they heard an avalanche nearby in the area where four of their friends were riding in the Snowy Mountain Range. Upon arriving on the scene, Bertsch sent his GPS location and distress message by pressing a single 9-1-1 button, and immediately started helping to dig his friends out of the snow. They were able to free three before rescuers arrived. One man, reportedly in his forties, was also buried but did not survive the accident.

“I received an OK message from Brian’s SPOT telling me that he was safe. In fact, I was viewing his location through Google Maps online at findmespot.com when I was called by the Emergency Response Center used by SPOT. They contacted me instantly and notified the local area emergency responders within minutes,” said Natalie Bertsch. “SPOT’s quick response was critical in the rescue communication. I can rest easily knowing that Brian will have SPOT with him every time he snowmobiles because of the safety capabilities and peace of mind it gives me.”

The National Association of Search and Rescue estimates that there are over 50,000 search and rescue missions launched each year in the United States. Most of these are initiated without knowledge of the victims’ location. While the popularity of GPS navigation systems and the increased coverage of wireless phone networks give some people a sense of security, anyone who routinely ventures into the wilderness knows how unreliable phone service can be in remote areas. The SPOT Satellite Messenger significantly raises the safety factor for the hundreds of millions of people around the world who take to the outdoors each year.
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ExpUt



Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Posts: 106

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject:  

The Spot is an excellent device, there are alot of folks in the overland 4x4 world currently using them. A good freind of mine left in November for a ~10 month trip through Central & South America. Driving and living in his Land Cruiser along the way. He has been using the Spot to check in, every day I get an email with a pre-programmed Spot message ie. "I'm OK, sitting on the beach in baja" or something like that. It provides a link to GoogleEarth where it will show exactly where he was when checking in.
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject:  

So I'm layin there for aboot four days ay.
The whole time I'm thinkin to myself, I'm thinkin "Why didn't I get a SPOT ay? Like RedMan said in the Forum".



CROWSNEST PASS, Alberta (AP) - For one Canadian paramedic, "survival mode" entails eating dirt, warming himself with dead beavers and fending off coyotes with a whistle.

All this while pinned under an ATV for four days and three nights in frigid temperatures.

Ken Hildebrand was riding in Alberta bush country collecting animal traps when his ATV hit a rock and rolled on his leg. He says he kept himself alive by picking at the rotting beavers and eating dirt for moisture. He says coyotes fought nearby, but he managed to keep them at bay with a whistle.

A hiker and his dog found Hildebrand in his fourth day and he was taken to a hospital. The ordeal may cost him his right foot, but one hospital official says it's amazing he survived at all.

The official says the only thing on Hildebrand's mind after the ordeal was that he'd miss his next paramedic shift.
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject:  

Can you say "Get a SPOT"?
Marooned for 12 days because they got stuck in the snow.



Kearns couple found alive by crew plowing road
By Mark Havnes
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 02/06/2008 08:38:33 PM MST

CEDAR CITY - Thomas and Tamitha Garner, the Kearns couple who have been missing in southern Utah for 12 days, were found this afternoon by an Iron County road crew near the Utah-Nevada state line.
The couple arrived at Valley View Medical Center in Cedar City shortly after 5 p.m.
Tamitha Garner was removed from an ambulance on a stretcher covered with a blanket; then Thomas Garner came out and was placed in a wheelchair, wrapped in a blanket, wearing a hooded sweatshirt and sunglasses.
When asked how he was doing, he said, "Great!" in a strong, husky voice. And he said "Hi, Mom," to the waiting news media and its cameras.
The couple were taken into the emergency room to be examined. Rescuers also took their dog, Medusa, out of the ambulance. The frisky animal was hooked up to a leash and turned over to an animal-control officer.
The Kearns couple were found walking on Modena Canyon Road just south of the community of Hamlin Valley. The road runs through Modena Canyon. The road worker, who had been plowing snow, drove them to Modena, about 60 miles from Cedar City on State Road 56. There, they were met by the ambulance.
"They were stranded, but they managed to stay with their vehicle," Iron County Sheriff Mark Gower said.
The couple's truck was stuck in snow in a canyon in Beaver County on Jan. 26, authorities said. The couple stayed in their truck nine days and began walking out on Monday. They had hiked about 10 miles, building fires along the way to keep warm, before they were found today.
Darrell Wilson, the emergency room doctor who attended to the couple, said they were dehydrated, suffered frostbite on toes and fingers, but that they would suffer no long term damage.
"Their condition was stable. I was surprised after the trial they had gone through," Wilson said. "They were in good spirits."
Hours before being located, Thomas Garner's father, Gerald, told how family and friends hoped for a miracle that the couple would be found safe.
"I've put it in God's hands. He's the one in charge of the miracles," Gerald Garner said from his Taylorsville home.
About three hours later, Charles Hewlett, one of three members of an Iron County road crew, spotted the couple walking as he cleared snow from the roadway in a pickup truck with a plow, said Neil Forsyth, County Road supervisor.
"We debated for a while" on Tuesday whether to grade the snowpacked roadway, Forsyth said. "Just yesterday, we decided to do it and get it done. [The Garners] are pretty lucky we decided to go ahead and plow the road."
Because the roadway is so remote and rarely used during winter months, neither Beaver or Iron counties plow the roadway, Forsyth said. Snow drifts in the area ranged anywhere from 2 to 4 feet in some locations.
When Hewlett discovered the missing couple, Tamitha Garner "about jerked him out the grader," Forsyth said, noting that she was crying and happy to be found.
The couple had vanished during a weekend road trip in Utah's Dixie to photograph wild horses. They left Jan. 24 and had been last spotted Jan. 26.
- Tribune reporters Russ Rizzo and Nathan C. Gonzalez contributed to this story.
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Mooseman70



Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 193
Location: Salt Lake County, UT

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject:  

All that because they decided to drive past a 'ROAD CLOSED' sign. :nono:

They are lucky they didn't die. Their poor judgement cost a SAR Team member his life. pissed:
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trackrunner



Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 665

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

I thought I read the SAR member died the next day when he got home. An autopsy report will determine the exact cause of death. Thought it appeared that exhaustion contributed to the death, he told his wife he felt tired.
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject:  

EXACTLY my point.

People forget that they put SAR team members at risk.

Leroy Davenport died because these people went out completely unprepared.

With devices like the SPOT and other PLBs there is simply no excuse.
If they had one they would have been rescued on day 1 and Leroy Davenports family would still be happy and whole.
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oldno7



Joined: 16 May 2007
Posts: 490

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject:  

RedMan wrote: EXACTLY my point.

People forget that they put SAR team members at risk.

Leroy Davenport died because these people went out completely unprepared.

With devices like the SPOT and other PLBs there is simply no excuse.
If they had one they would have been rescued on day 1 and Leroy Davenports family would still be happy and whole.

The fact is that the Iron county SAR is very ill prepared to conduct any kind of snowmobile related rescue. :frustrated:
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Alex



Joined: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 2369
Location: SLC, UT

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject:  

How well does this work in slot canyons?

I am definitely getting one for my rafting trips though, thank you for the review!
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RedMan



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 468
Location: Colorado???

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject:  

Alex,

All I can say is your chances are much better with Spot than anything else.

It is considered "line of sight" but I know it works inside my house.
I have used it in very heavy tree cover, and through several deep canyons.

But if you are in a situation like Aron Ralston, in the bottom of the slot, rock over head and all around I doubt it will work.

In that case one of your friends (you didn't go alone right?) would need to scramble to a better location.

It has indicator lights that tell you if it has a signal lock so you will know if it can gt a message out.

That said, I am sure there is nothing better. Nothing else will get you a 911 response that quickly virtually anywhere you can see the sky.
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