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rockgremlin



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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject:  

Shan wrote:
I don't know you well enough yet or your humor, so is that how you feel or are you joking?

I thought by including these: :haha: :haha: :haha: , that you would know I was joking! :haha: :lol8: :roflol: :mrgreen: :haha: :lol8: :roflol: :mrgreen: :haha: :lol8: :roflol: :mrgreen:

Always take my posts with a grain of salt...I'm rarely serious.
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Shan



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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject:  

OK, phew!

Quote: ...I'm rarely serious

Sounds like my husband!
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derstuka



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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Location: San Diego, CA

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject:  

A lady at my work has a house in New Orleans, and one in Biloxi, that she owns and rents out. She doesn't know the condition of either of them, or the tenants that inhabit them.

I know everybody always asks why this wasn't done, and why that wasn't done, after a disaster strikes, but I really firmly believe (as I stated before) that if your city sits resides in a depression, sided by lakes and rivers on each side, and continues to sink each year, make damn sure that you have the best protection necessary in putting up levees and damns, because although the money spent to upgrade them will be high, it sure as hell beats what is going on now. Now it is gonna cost 50+ billion to fix it all after everything is over.

Here's a two questions for all:

If you choose to stay behind after a major disaster warning (such as a hurricane) and are given ample opportunity to evacuate, should anybody be held responsible to save your ass? Kinda like if you hike into the rocky mtns, get lost, and call for help, what about that? I'm just talking about personal responsibility is all. Not some elderly people who can't evacuate without help, or help themselves.

If you think so, then can the people who stayed behind be held responsible for breaking into stores when they had opportunites to buy goods, or evacuate earlier?
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JamisJockey



Joined: 16 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject:  

rockgremlin wrote: Here, hold this lightning rod for a sec, and I'm gonna run over here and hide under this rubber coated bomb shelter... :haha: :haha: :haha:

Your mythical god means nothing to me.
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rockgremlin



Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject:  

derstuka wrote: Here's a two questions for all:

If you choose to stay behind after a major disaster warning (such as a hurricane) and are given ample opportunity to evacuate, should anybody be held responsible to save your ass? Kinda like if you hike into the rocky mtns, get lost, and call for help, what about that? I'm just talking about personal responsibility is all. Not some elderly people who can't evacuate without help, or help themselves.

If you think so, then can the people who stayed behind be held responsible for breaking into stores when they had opportunites to buy goods, or evacuate earlier?

Ya, I agree. I think if you're gonna thumb your nose at the warning call, you should be prepared to provide the necessities of life to yourself and your own when your city is leveled. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. How is it the President's fault, or Congress' fault, or the National Guards' fault for what happened to New Orleans?! How is it now the Federal Gov't's (and therefore the taxpayer's) responsibility to provide food, water and shelter to the stranded citizens of New Orleans, when they themselves CHOSE to ignore the warnings to get out!!!!!!
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derstuka



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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject:  

rockgremlin wrote:
Ya, I agree. I think if you're gonna thumb your nose at the warning call, you should be prepared to provide the necessities of life to yourself and your own when your city is leveled. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. How is it the President's fault, or Congress' fault, or the National Guards' fault for what happened to New Orleans?! How is it now the Federal Gov't's (and therefore the taxpayer's) responsibility to provide food, water and shelter to the stranded citizens of New Orleans, when they themselves CHOSE to ignore the warnings to get out!!!!!!

I couldn't agree more. Has anybody heard how sensitive everybody has become about the "refugee" term being used for New Orleaners being displaced? I heard Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton saying it sounds racist, or like they are an international people. My dear, since when did people become so sensitive?

Did anyone hear about how they are no longer calling high school dropouts, "dropouts" in some canadian towns? They want to call them "early release students " or some other thing.
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Iceaxe



Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject:  

Guys,

Here's a URL from a guy who runs a co-located hosting company in NO. He's ex-special forces, and is in his building with supplies, a generator, and fuel (plus, I'll wager, guns and plenty of ammunition). He vows to keep his system up and stay there.

His comments have the urgency and feel of someone who is right there, and they are frightening.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
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Sombeech



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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject:  

derstuka wrote: Did anyone hear about how they are no longer calling high school dropouts, "dropouts" in some canadian towns? They want to call them "early release students " or some other thing.

I know. We don't want to OFFEND anybody. They went from calling border jumpers "illegal aliens", to "undocumented immigrants" to "undocumented workers".

Funny how they caught hundreds of "undocumented workers" at the border one day, before they got an american job. We are going out of our way to NOT OFFEND anybody, that we are labelling anybody who sneaks into our country "worker". :crazycobasa:
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jimflint1



Joined: 17 Jul 2005
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Location: Middle-of-Nowhere

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject:  

yeah, and some schools are making the teachers use purple ink to mark wrong answers because red check marks make a kid feel stupid.
No wonder we have so many people unable to do anything in the real world.

Shane
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Sombeech



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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject:  

In two years, purple will be offensive. Then they'll move to Yellow, the color of happy sunshine.

You can't escape a "term" or "noun" or "object" being offensive to people. We can't say Mexican, or someone will get offended (usually white americans!!). Hispanic is the right word. But when did Mexican start being offensive? Is it because some people don't want to be reminded of their home country? Nope. Most Hispanics are actually fine with the adjective Mexican. To say that word is bad, means there's something wrong with Mexico.

When I am visiting a foreign country, I have NEVER been offended at the term American.

It's not the color of red that's bad, it's the lazy kid who didn't study (just like me) that doesn't want any incorrect answers on his test. Pretty soon, a teacher is going to get sued because some students saw the "purple" marker on a certain student's assignment, and that's an invasion of privacy.
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derstuka



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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject:  

I guess I am politically incorrect, because I call people from Mexico, Mexicans, people from Canada, Canadians, and flight attendants, stewards or stewardesses. Like Sombeech mentioned, people sooner find every term offensive. Soon it won't be politically correct to call a person who commits a crime a criminal. They will be a "disadvantaged person" or some other crazy thing. Just as was also stated by Sombeech, I would never be offended by someone calling me an American in another country. I guess if I was like all these sensitive people, being calling white would be offensive to me, and I should be called "of european descent."

These people today who are making all these politically correct statements would never survive back in the old days, or in a country with a not so democratic government system. People would think they were crazy, such as I do.

Honestly, I try not to think of all this so much, because, in reality, it truly makes me sick.
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