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CarpeyBiggs · Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1722 Location: Fairbanks, AK

Could've been worse, we could've played Utah St. this year, who is much worse the Eastern Washington... :haha:

Or I could just say U-N-L-V. Those four letters will haunt Utah for the rest of this season...

accadacca · Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: The Interwebs

T-U-L-S-A

CarpeyBiggs · Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1722 Location: Fairbanks, AK

The difference is Tulsa didn't cost BYU a shot at the conference championship. UNLV, on the other hand....

BTW, pics of Eastern Washington are up... www.danransom.com/blog

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7683 Location: Local Bordello

Congrads on the win over the JV squad.

:roll:

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1313 Location: Provo, Utah

Iceaxe wrote: Congrads on the win over the JV squad.

:roll: Key words "the win". Hey even Bronco thought the timing of this game was bad. Shoulda been the first or second game of the season. Oh well, we'll get back on track in San Deigo. My only grip was that the offense did not look too good in the first half. Dropped ball after dropped ball. Blocking was crappy too. Thank goodness for Unga. Darn near won it single handedly on offense. Defense looked fine.

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1313 Location: Provo, Utah

CarpeyBiggs wrote: The difference is Tulsa didn't cost BYU a shot at the conference championship. UNLV, on the other hand....

BTW, pics of Eastern Washington are up... www.danransom.com/blog

Sweet, I love that one "coming in hot" great shot. The one of Semanoff tells the story of the receivers and backs trying to catch a ball in the first half. Thanks for sharing.

accadacca · Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: The Interwebs

Hey what do you guys think. The first 3 or 4 games I thought Max Hall was much better then John Beck ever was in his first 2 years. However, Max Hall has a stable of good running back around him. In fact I am not sure that BYU has EVER had this many good backs at one time. Is Max Hall further along than Beck at this stage or does he just have better support around him?

CarpeyBiggs · Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1722 Location: Fairbanks, AK

Definitely farther along than Beck was...

Mentally, Max is on a whole different plane. Beck was a mental head case for the longest time, simply because his coaches didn't instill confidence in him. Max, on the other hand, is a gamer. He doesn't care about making mistakes, he just wants to win, and he is very confident. He is an unconscious gun slinger... Very Favre-esque in my opinion. He might throw a few dumb picks, but if I wanted someone to lead my team, and it was between Beck and Hall, I'd take all every time. It took Beck until his senior year at TCU to develop that killer mentality.

As for running backs, BYU has some good ones right now, but let's not forget Curtis Brown so quickly. Beck had him for three years. Brown is arguably the best all around RB to ever play at the Y. (Though Unga could supplant him, if he keeps it up) And let's be honest, BYU only has one good back right now. Fui isn't full speed yet, and Tonga is playing mainly fullback.

Reedus · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 448

Got agree with the big carpet meister. Beck isn't even close to the quarter back that Hall is. Right on the money when talking about confidence. Beck choked sooo many times in key moments. Hall gets it done.

Kent K25 · Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 529 Location: Ivins (St. George)

Reedus wrote: Got agree with the big carpet meister. Beck isn't even close to the quarter back that Hall is. Right on the money when talking about confidence. Beck choked sooo many times in key moments. Hall gets it done.

I'd say you agreed with him and took it to a whole new level....He is further along at this point than Beck was, but Beck is a much better QB than Hall is. That's present tense you're using. You really think Hall is an early 2nd round draft pick RIGHT NOW?

Reedus · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 448

Sorry, my bad. By the time Hall is a Senior, I bet he goes first or second round. He is shaping up to be the best quarterback BYU has put out IMHO

CarpeyBiggs · Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1722 Location: Fairbanks, AK

Reedus wrote: Sorry, my bad. By the time Hall is a Senior, I bet he goes first or second round. He is shaping up to be the best quarterback BYU has put out IMHO

I might agree, but he has a definite size disadvantage to John Beck. I've stood next to both, and Hall seems much smaller, less physically built for the NFL. We'll see what happens though.

Also, Hall might be surrounded by the most talented group of wide recievers that BYU has ever seen by his senior year, so his numbers should be ridiculous. He'll have Pitta, Unga, Collie, Jacobsen, and Ashworth as a senior.

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1313 Location: Provo, Utah

CarpeyBiggs wrote:

Also, Hall might be surrounded by the most talented group of wide recievers that BYU has ever seen by his senior year, so his numbers should be ridiculous. He'll have Pitta, Unga, Collie, Jacobsen, and Ashworth as a senior. If there is anything that gets me giddy with excitement besides canyoneering, its talk like this. :2thumbs:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7683 Location: Local Bordello

Reedus wrote: He is shaping up to be the best quarterback BYU has put out

OK.... everyone on the bandwagon.... :lol8:

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1313 Location: Provo, Utah

Iceaxe wrote: Reedus wrote: He is shaping up to be the best quarterback BYU has put out

OK.... everyone on the bandwagon.... :lol8:

I'm a bit more skeptical. I'll let you know what I think after his junior year. :nod: Although easy game, his throwing last week was shakey in my opinion.