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caverspencer



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Eagle Mountain

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject:  

benlittle wrote:
That's just crazy low pack weight. Good for you. I've never EVER weighed less than 30lbs doing a 5+ day trip. :ne_nau:

Note that I said WITHOUT food and water. Also this was only a 3 day trip, although I came prepared to stay up to 5 if I had to to get Kings and Gilbert. Like I said I had waay to much food.

FYI my tent is a BlackDiamond LightSabre Bivy, it weighs less than 1.5lbs, my sleeping bag is about 2.5 lbs (and I have yet to have a cold night), then I have a 3/4 length thermarest, an MSR whisperlight stove, a titanium 900ml evernew pot, and a titanium toolspoon, some first aid and other essentials, a full change of clothing, extra clothing based on expected temperature, and electronics such a camera, GPS, 2way radio, and cell phone. Unfortunately my back pack itself is about 5 of the 20 lbs. My next purchase may very well be an GoLite or REI UL backpack.

Oh and my day pack is the REI UL Flash, it only weighs 9oz and is surprisingly comfy.
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Scott Card



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Provo, Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject:  

caverspencer wrote: benlittle wrote:
That's just crazy low pack weight. Good for you. I've never EVER weighed less than 30lbs doing a 5+ day trip. :ne_nau:

Note that I said WITHOUT food and water.

FYI my tent is a BlackDiamond LightSabre Bivy, it weighs less than 1.5lbs, my sleeping bag is about 2.5 lbs (and I have yet to have a cold night), then I have a 3/4 length thermarest, an MSR whisperlight stove, a titanium 900ml evernew pot, and a titanium toolspoon, some first aid and other essentials, a full change of clothing, extra clothing based on expected temperature, and electronics such a camera, GPS, 2way radio, and cell phone. Unfortunately my back pack itself is about 5 of the 20 lbs. My next purchase may very well be an GoLite or REI UL backpack.

Oh and my day pack is the REI UL Flash, it only weighs 9oz and is surprisingly comfy.

Yes, but did you cut the handle off your toothbrush? :haha:
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caverspencer



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Eagle Mountain

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject:  

Scott Card wrote:

Yes, but did you cut the handle off your toothbrush? :haha:

No but I took off un needed buckels and tags.... does that count? :ne_nau:

Supplies like Sunscreen, Hydrocortisine and Icyhot I put in little tiny bottles....

Seriously though, the three places you can save weight fast is 1- tent, 2- sleeping bag and pad, 3- pack itself. Who cares about the 1/2 oz the toothbrush handle weighs...
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Scott Card



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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject:  

caverspencer wrote:
Seriously though, the three places you can save weight fast is 1- tent, 2- sleeping bag and pad, 3- pack itself. Who cares about the 1/2 oz the toothbrush handle weighs...

Agree. Of Course, I am not one to talk. I packed in a griddle into Kolob Canyon just so I could have my pancakes and bacon for the long hike out Kolob Canyon and the Narrows.
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CarpeyBiggs



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Location: Fairbanks, AK

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject:  

Scott Card wrote: Agree. Of Course, I am not one to talk. I packed in a griddle into Kolob Canyon just so I could have my pancakes and bacon for the long hike out Kolob Canyon and the Narrows.

Wow, Scott! When do I get to do a trip with you man? I'll carry the ropes if you carry the griddle.
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Scott Card



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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject:  

CarpeyBiggs wrote: Scott Card wrote: Agree. Of Course, I am not one to talk. I packed in a griddle into Kolob Canyon just so I could have my pancakes and bacon for the long hike out Kolob Canyon and the Narrows.

Wow, Scott! When do I get to do a trip with you man? I'll carry the ropes if you carry the griddle.

Hey, I left the dutch oven in the car. If you go to Freeze fest, you'll see the dutch oven crowd (of which I am a part) at its finest.
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RedRoxx



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Posts: 114
Location: Tucson Az

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject:  

I was at 32 lbs with water for a 66 miles in the Gila Wilderness. I was out 7 days had enough food for 9 days.
Bivy
Sil tarp
one titanium cook pot
all freeze dry type food
WM Ultralight down bag
one set thin capilene thermals
Rain gear
Aqua Mira for water treatment

A few sundries-- my pack is an Osprey Expedition series. Large vol, weighed in about 3lbs empty.
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fouristhenewone



Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 164

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject:  

seems to get a lot harder to pack light when you've got the wife along. I can't imagine packin with the kids...thank god I've only got dogs....
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denaliguide



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Location: new zealand/alaska

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject:  

24 pounds seem good to me. when i go light my base pack is around 10 pounds plus food and water. i don't carry a stove so all my food is non-cook. i did a 8 day trip in escalante and my pack never weighed over 35 lbs. most was water. i had several dry camps so i carried a 6 liter dromeday and a 100 oz. camelback.
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rlm



Joined: 10 Aug 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: the tent vs tarp  

I just got back from Kings peak, and several of our hikers were tarping, vs tenting. weight must be the only issue here, but if i'm going alone my tent with rainfly is only 4 lbs, with another person we split that at 2 lbs each. is a tarp really that much lighter? what about bad weather with a tarp? so many questions, trying to figure it out seems to be a conundrum wrapped in an enigma?
r
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rlm



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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: the tent vs tarp  

I just got back from Kings peak, and several of our hikers were tarping, vs tenting. weight must be the only issue here, but if i'm going alone my tent with rainfly is only 4 lbs, with another person we split that at 2 lbs each. is a tarp really that much lighter? what about bad weather with a tarp? so many questions, trying to figure it out seems to be a conundrum wrapped in an enigma?
r
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denaliguide



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Location: new zealand/alaska

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject:  

i have a silicone impregnated t arp that's 10' x 12' and weighs 1 1/2 lbs. with the proper pitch i have set out some major downpours. its light and very versatile. plenty of room for 3 campers.
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Cirrus2000



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject:  

denaliguide wrote: i have a silicone impregnated t arp that's 10' x 12' and weighs 1 1/2 lbs. with the proper pitch i have set out some major downpours. its light and very versatile. plenty of room for 3 campers.

Unfortunately, I happened to be right at the edge of the covered area during a surprise thunder/hail storm one night near Hans Flat - got a little wet, and frozen/cramped hands holding the edge of the tarp down!

I should have just woken you up and made you shove over. Or moved around to the lee side of the tarp...

Anyway, it was a great tarp, and I was so impressed that I went out and bought one myself; not the same one - a little smaller at about 7' x 10' and a little under a pound. Haven't used it yet in the field, but looking forward to it...

Up until now, I've used an Integral Designs Unishelter Bivy, at 2.5 pounds. I use it a lot in rain, snow and other assorted BC weather, so the extra weight is worthwhile to me - I really like its bombproofiness (real word?).
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denaliguide



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject:  

Cirrus2000 wrote: denaliguide wrote: i have a silicone impregnated t arp that's 10' x 12' and weighs 1 1/2 lbs. with the proper pitch i have set out some major downpours. its light and very versatile. plenty of room for 3 campers.

Unfortunately, I happened to be right at the edge of the covered area during a surprise thunder/hail storm one night near Hans Flat - got a little wet, and frozen/cramped hands holding the edge of the tarp down!

I should have just woken you up and made you shove over. Or moved around to the lee side of the tarp...

that was a blustery night, for sure. lol. i recall snow on the ground that morning.
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caverspencer



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Eagle Mountain

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: the tent vs tarp  

rlm wrote: I just got back from Kings peak, and several of our hikers were tarping, vs tenting. weight must be the only issue here, but if i'm going alone my tent with rainfly is only 4 lbs, with another person we split that at 2 lbs each. is a tarp really that much lighter? what about bad weather with a tarp? so many questions, trying to figure it out seems to be a conundrum wrapped in an enigma?
r

I use a balck diamond light sabre bivy. its about 1.5 lbs and very very small in the pack. It kept me bone dry and it rained on us off and on the entire time we were up there.
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