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Scout Master
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Good Rappelling |
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Brian in SLC
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Good Rappelling |
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Scout Master wrote: I need a really good place to teach rappelling in the Davis weber county area . Preferably one where we do not need to climb too much first. We are looking for something 80 to 120 feet high
In the interest of public safety, and, based on your videos from the below thread on "Teaking kids to rappell", I think you shouldn't be teaching rappelling.
"Lock your knees"? And all that jumping around. No helmits in the second video. And so on.
Yikes yikes yikes.
Makes me wonder what qualifications, if any, you have to teach rappelling.
This isn't the same type of rappelling taught by, or referenced, by any certified climbing guide service or how-to manual I've seen written in the last 20+ years.
I can't imagine the liability...
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC |
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Jaxx
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Any websites you recomend for rapelling basics Brian? I would like to make sure my technique is correct, Im a noob, and I need all the tips I can get.
Im sure everyone understands constructive criticism but ouch that was harsh. |
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price1869
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| There are a ton of people who can teach you how to rappel much better than your computer/internet. Just throw out a request. How about me? Sure, what night? |
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Scout Master
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Sombeech
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Scout Master wrote: Your Judgmental comments based on a couple of 1 minute videos show you are the one with the problem.
Ah, man, I didn't get to this thread in time. Can you repost the link to the videos? I'd like to see. (without judging) |
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Scout Master
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Sombeech
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| Thanks Scout Master. |
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codyb25
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| Wow, is all I can say. That got a little heated. I'm not going to comment on the video. It would be nice to know where some rappels are in the davis/weber county area. Anyone answer these yet? |
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Sombeech
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codyb25 wrote: Wow, is all I can say. That got a little heated. I'm not going to comment on the video. It would be nice to know where some rappels are in the davis/weber county area. Anyone answer these yet?
A buddy and I about 15 years ago used to hike just south of the North Ogden Divide. It was about 80'. It was a nice overlook of the canyon road there to the north.
Sorry, I don't remember many details though. We just found a cliff and went to it. |
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jumar
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I don't know the davis/weber county area very well. If you're down in SL or Utah County I could help more.
If you don't mind a drive, I always liked Echo Canyon for rappelling. |
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Sombeech
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| Yeah, looks like Scout Master would know where these are up north. |
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Jaxx
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price1869 wrote: There are a ton of people who can teach you how to rappel much better than your computer/internet. Just throw out a request. How about me? Sure, what night?
Thanks for the offer. I have been rappelling before and I think I have it down, I just wanted something of a guideline. Like Brian was saying locking knees isn't good. I never lock my knees while rappelling but its good to know this stuff.
I recently took a class at Hansen Mountaineering that was run by 12 Finger Outdoor Adventure. They did a great job of teaching rappelling. I was thinking that a "hard copy" of some guidelines would be nice though. |
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Scout Master
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Brian in SLC
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Scout Master wrote: We will be climbing and rappelling on the 9th street rocks in Ogden tomorrow morning if any one wants to come and see how I do it.
Sounds good, I may just take you up on that (since I'll be headin' to Ogden for the climbing festival thing anyway).
There's a few routes to climb? I see one 5.6 on mountainproject. Are there other climbing routes?
Also, if you have copies of any of these, would you mind bringing them along (I think they're all BSA publications)?
Climb On Safely Training Outline
Climbing Merit Badge pamphlet
Climbing and Rappelling National Standards
"Topping Out: A B.S.A. Climbing/Rappelling Manual"
Climbing Lesson
Should be a nice day. Kinda bummed I'm going to be inside for the afternoon and evening, but, the festival should be fun.
http://www.jefflowe.info/climbfest/
Anyone going to the ClimbFest??
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC |
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