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[Scott P]

Quote: Nah, not true either. My dad's stove and lantern are both going strong, and they're vintage 50's. Some of the best car camping stuff ever made.

OK, let me rephrase that. It's the only good climbing product Coleman ever made (that I know of at least). They make stuff mostly for car camping and their stuff works just fine for that.

Quote: overseas.

Yep, that's why I have my Whisperlight and XKG. Actually the Xpert now has an adapter to fit any of the other cartridges.

Quote: Also, its heavy, given the other models that are designed similarly (ie, the MSR Windpro is around half the weight and will use most cartridges out there).

Yes, heavier than the MSR Windpro, but I wouldn't call it heavy.

13.5 ounces for the Xpert and 6.8-10.5 ounces for the Windpro.

Quote: If weight, space, and function is top priority (ie, hanging from a wall and using a hanging stove system) then that might be as big a factor as ease of cold weather use.

I agree. My post was about only about cold-weather use, which someone asked about.

Quote: upon closer inspection it does some really neat things, design wise, that its competition hadn't. The integrated pot/heat exchanger idear for instance. And Jetboil definately pushed the rest of the industry into some competition.

Agree. My only mention is about cold weather use because someone asked about it. It (JetBoil) has good features not related to cold weather. In fact the only complaint at all I've heard is the cold weather use. Everything else about the stove is rated very highly by about everyone.

[Brewhaha]

I see that MSR is coming out with a cannister stove combo like the JetBoil. It is a little heavier but (according to preliminary tests) boils faster, works much better in the cold and wind. However, I don't like the design of it as much as the JB. I thing the cozy is a nice touch to make it easier to handle the pot.

I wish I could find the link again to the MSR stove but it is supposedly coming out in the next month or two.

I went ahead and got the JB. Just ran a quick home test and it definitely boiled in 2 minutes. The design is very slick. Also I've read in some reviews that it is difficult to remove the pot from the stove after cooking because of hot metal parts. Maybe the one I bought is a redesign because there the stove part looks to be a hard plastic which didn't get hot at all.

[Brian in SLC]

Brewhaha wrote: I see that MSR is coming out with a cannister stove combo like the JetBoil. It is a little heavier but (according to preliminary tests) boils faster, works much better in the cold and wind. However, I don't like the design of it as much as the JB. I thing the cozy is a nice touch to make it easier to handle the pot.

I wish I could find the link again to the MSR stove but it is supposedly coming out in the next month or two.

I'll post this link again...

http://www.trailspace.com/news/2007/01/17/integrated-canister-stove-showdown.html

MSR Reactor.

I saw a test at the OR show between the Reactor and the Pocketrocket, done with a fan. Was amazing how well the Reactor handled the wind. Wild design.

-Brian in SLC