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rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3984 Location: Hotel California

Speak on derstuka...history (particularly WW2 history) fascinates me!

derstuka · Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 1275 Location: San Diego, CA

rockgremlin wrote: Speak on derstuka...history (particularly WW2 history) fascinates me!

Well, if you insist: Did you know that some scholars believe that many wars (WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, and not to mention help progress the spread of communism) can be totally to partially linked to the assassination of Austria's Archduke Francis Ferdinand on June 28th 1914 in Sarajevo, the capital city of Bosnia and Herzegovina?

First of all, Francis Ferdinand was assassinated by 19 year old Serbian Nationalist Gavrilo Princip. Princip was a member of the Black Hand society which was a terrorist organization to fight for Serbia's independence from the Austria-Hungary empire. Ferdinand was chosen because the Serbs believed that he continue and heighten the persecution of Serbs in the Austro-Hungarian empire one he was on the throne. Ferdinand ignored warnings of an assassination plot to kill him. Princip (and two other young men) travelled to Sarajevo to assassinate him. After a failed bomb throwing attempt. The archduke and his wife Sopia was shot by Princip with two bullets. The assassins were given cyanide pills to take afterword, but one man took one and jumped into the river and was captured.

Austria-Hungary responded swiftly to the Serbian government. On July 23, 1914, Austria-Hungary presented Serbia with a list of demands They had 48 hour period in which to comply. These demands included abolishing all Pan-Serb propaganda, expelling from office any persons thought to have nationalist sympathies, taking legal action against certain officials designated by Austria-Hungary, and allowing agents of the Dual Monarchy to control all investigations and proceedings concerning the Sarajevo murders. Minutes before the July 25th deadline, Serbia issued a conciliatory reply to Berchtold's demands, stating that Serbia wished the dispute to be submitted to the International Tribunal at the Hague. This conciliation was rejected. On July 28, 1914, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia. World War I had begun.

Whew....that is your lesson for today. Oh, and Gavrilo Princip tried to kill himself with a pistol, but it was knocked out of his hand, and when it tried the cyanide pill he vomited. Because of his age he was spared the death penalty and died of tuberculosis (all three hit men had tuberculosis) at age 23. There is also speculation on if the men were really given cyanide in correct dosage, or at all, so they would be captured, but that is another story...

derstuka · Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 1275 Location: San Diego, CA

Oh, and Hitler's real name is schicklgruber. He is also an army deserter and all he really wanted to be was an artist, he even called himself an artist until after he was 30. If Hitler had not been twice rejected by the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts, then we might very well be living in a very different world today...

jimflint1 · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 549 Location: Middle-of-Nowhere

Jim Flint is a character from a Louis L'Amour book. I liked the book and took the name.

That's it.

Shane

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3984 Location: Hotel California

derstuka wrote: ...All of that history stuff he just said...

See? That's what I'm talking about! Fact is definitely stranger and more intriguing than fiction! Makes ya wonder what kind of crazy stuff is happening right now in our own government that we won't know about until 100 years from now when the truth is revealed.

derstuka · Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 1275 Location: San Diego, CA

rockgremlin wrote: derstuka wrote: ...All of that history stuff he just said...

See? That's what I'm talking about! Fact is definitely stranger and more intriguing than fiction! Makes ya wonder what kind of crazy stuff is happening right now in our own government that we won't know about until 100 years from now when the truth is revealed.

True dat brudda! Most history is just really sad. Somebody else screwed over somebody else, and somebody killed everybody else, and somebody lied to somebody else. I wouldn't trust our gov (or most governments) anymore than I would trust Michael Jackson to take care of my children (which I don't have)! 95% of what they do is to lie, lie, lie, waste your money, and then they lie some more! So very depressing it is. All I do is vote for who I can, and go riding, and try and forget about this nutty world.

Black Mage · Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 71 Location: Sunset, Utah

My name, Black Mage, is originally from the Final Fantasy series of video games.

This is the guy:

I, However, took the name because Black Mage is my favorite character in the web comic, 8-Bit Theater. He's a hero of the story, but still manages to burn down the occational orphanage and constantly plots against and attempts the murders of his companions.

As for my avatear right now, I'm using Pants Man, a character from the web comic, VGCats

troutfisher · Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Location: salt lake city

I picked mine because I like to fish for trout. I also picked the Avatar, cause I like The Simpsons. Any other Simpsons fans out there?
Troutfisher

JamisJockey · Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1023 Location: Woodbridge, VA

troutfisher wrote: I picked mine because I like to fish for trout. I also picked the Avatar, cause I like The Simpsons. Any other Simpsons fans out there?
Troutfisher
You better believe it. I've seen almost every episode.

troutfisher · Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Location: salt lake city

Glad I am not the only simpsons fan out there. The new season starts Sept. 11th. Can hardly wait.

theprof · Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 29 Location: SLC, UT

Of my friends, I was most able to ride, party, and get up and ride the next day with the least amount of impact, so my buddies said I wasn't just a drunk, but I was "The Professional Drunk". It got shortened to "The Prof" or just "Prof".

DaveOU812 · Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 456 Location: Murray

I picked mine cause it's partialy my name. The OU812 I got from Van Halen but I just think it's funny to tell ya the honest truth. The avitar, It's one that everybody has seen and I thought it was funny. It needs to be changed though.

Superriffic S* · Guest

Lets see, I chose my handle because I am Superriffic at just about EVERYTHING!!! I chose my avatar because Rainbow Brite was my hero when I was but a youth.

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DaveOU812 · Guest Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 456 Location: Murray

Ok, chaged the avitar. If you've ever seen the movie Ice Age then you probobly love that little rat. I saw him on the preview where he pulled out the acorn and the ice cracked and started shifting...I laughed till I cried.

double moo · Guest Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 219 Location: Draper

My current ride is a B-M-Double Moo...(it's white and black)