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[Rev. Coyote]

The story below shows Idaho's "governor" is a complete, utter, unadulterated jerk. In supporting the idiotic killing of wolves, he not only shows himself as a piece of trash, but burdens the legitimate hunting community with yet another image problem.

As a sustenance hunter and fisherman, I find Otter's actions deeply offensive and just plain wrong.

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Idaho Governor Calls for Gray Wolf Kill

January 12, 2007 — By Jesse Harlan Alderman, Associated Press

BOISE, Idaho -- Idaho's governor said Thursday he will support public hunts to kill all but 100 of the state's gray wolves after the federal government strips them of protection under the Endangered Species Act.

Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter told The Associated Press that he wants hunters to kill about 550 gray wolves. That would leave about 100 wolves, or 10 packs, according to a population estimate by state wildlife officials.

The 100 surviving wolves would be the minimum before the animals could again be considered endangered.

"I'm prepared to bid for that first ticket to shoot a wolf myself," Otter said earlier Thursday during a rally of about 300 hunters.

Otter complained that wolves are rapidly killing elk and other animals essential to Idaho's multimillion-dollar hunting industry. The hunters, many wearing camouflage clothing and blaze-orange caps, applauded wildly during his comments.

Suzanne Stone, a spokeswoman for the advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife in Boise, said Otter's proposal would return wolves to the verge of eradication.

"Essentially he has confirmed our worst fears for the state of Idaho: That this would be a political rather than a biological management of the wolf population," Stone said. "There's no economic or ecological reason for maintaining such low numbers. It's simple persecution."

Wolves were reintroduced to the northern Rocky Mountains a decade ago after being hunted to near-extinction. More than 1,200 now live in the region.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service plans to start removing federal protections from gray wolves in Montana and Idaho in the next few weeks.

A plan drafted by Idaho's wildlife agency calls for maintaining a minimum of 15 wolf packs -- higher than Otter's proposal of 10 packs.

Jeff Allen, a policy adviser for the state Office of Species Conservation, said 15 wolf packs would allow "a cushion" between the surviving wolf population and the minimum number that federal biologists would allow before the animals are again considered endangered.

Allen said Otter and state wildlife officials agree on wolf strategy and will be able to reach a consensus on specific numbers.

"You don't want to be too close to 10 because all of a sudden when one (wolf) is hit by a car or taken in defense of property, you're back on the list," Allen said.

Source: Associated Press

[JP]

Tasty :naughty:

[Rev. Coyote]

JP wrote: Tasty :naughty:

Possibly. I'd like to see every S.O.B. shoots a wolf have to eat it.

[Sombeech]

Rev. Coyote wrote: In supporting the idiotic killing of wolves
or rather, "Killing of Idiotic Wolves".
Quote:
Suzanne Stone said Otter's proposal would return wolves to the verge of eradication. "Essentially he has confirmed our worst fears for the state of Idaho"
If this is Idaho's worst fear, life must be pretty good there. :ne_nau:

Utah must suck, because my worst fear. in Utah, is my home getting broken into when my family is unprotected. Leaving 100 Elk slaughtering predators ALIVE, that fear is quite a few rungs down on the ladder.

But that's me, and that's Idaho.

[Rev. Coyote]

Sombeech wrote: Utah must suck, because my worst fear. in Utah, is my home getting broken into when my family is unprotected. Leaving 100 Elk slaughtering predators ALIVE, that fear is quite a few rungs down on the ladder.

But that's me, and that's Idaho.


Amen to all of that.

Oh, and by "Elk slaughtering predators," are you referring to the governor and his butt buddies or to the wolves...?

And dammit, now I have a hankering for an elkburger.

[Iceaxe]

Rev. Coyote wrote: And dammit, now I have a hankering for an elkburger.

Hmmmm..... I has just thinking of BBQing up a nice wolf drumstick myself :eat:

[fourtycal]

Rev. Coyote wrote: Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter told The Associated Press that he wants hunters to kill about 550 gray wolves.

I hope they sell some out of state tags. I can't imagine a more challenging hunt.

I might not eat the predator but I sure would sell the pelt and buy some double cheeseburgers. :lol8:

[Sombeech]

Rev. Coyote wrote: Oh, and by "Elk slaughtering predators," are you referring to the governor and his butt buddies or to the wolves...?

Actually, just the butt.

[Rev. Coyote]

Sombeech wrote: Actually, just the butt.

You said butt. Heh heh heh...

[Rev. Coyote]

fourtycal wrote: I hope they sell some out of state tags. I can't imagine a more challenging hunt.

I might not eat the predator but I sure would sell the pelt and buy some double cheeseburgers. :lol8:


Tell you what, little man, for every wolf you get I'll shoot five open range welfare cows. That should be an even trade.

I think my old .308 Mauser would be right for the job!


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAW!!!!

[shlingdawg]

Help me out here, was it in fact the gray wolf they reintroduced into the region or the non-native Timberwolf?

Please research your response thoroughly.

[Rev. Coyote]

shlingdawg wrote: Help me out here, was it in fact the gray wolf they reintroduced into the region or the non-native Timberwolf?

Please research your response thoroughly.

Read the article. But if AP got it wrong, killing wolves is still reprehensible.

[shlingdawg]

Rev. Coyote wrote: shlingdawg wrote: Help me out here, was it in fact the gray wolf they reintroduced into the region or the non-native Timberwolf?

Please research your response thoroughly.

Read the article. But if AP got it wrong, killing wolves is still reprehensible.


I fail to see the moral wrongdoing in killing a wolf. Is it any different than killing a coyote, jackrabbit, bear, moose, elk, etc. etc.?

Am I missing something?

[tanya]

Rev. Coyote wrote:
Please research your response thoroughly.

Read the article. But if AP got it wrong, killing wolves is still reprehensible.[/quote]


Yeah :ne_nau: Killing animals is horrible!

[Rev. Coyote]

shlingdawg wrote: I fail to see the moral wrongdoing in killing a wolf. Is it any different than killing a coyote, jackrabbit, bear, moose, elk, etc. etc.?

Am I missing something?

I think killing an animal just for the kill (sport) is wrong compared to the killing of an animal for food (hunting). Sport killing gives hunting a bad name.

Plus, killing predators throws off the "natural balance." Predation helps herd improvement among deer, for instance. If you look at the deer population in my native state of Virginia, for instance, you can see how the lack of predators has made for an unhealthy herd. The annual hunt can't keep up with the population explosion. Wolves would help.

By the way, do you see anything wrong with killing bald eagles (loaded question, I know)? But they're predators and off the threatened list.