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paraAdams



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Backpacking Stoves  

I'm looking to buy a new backpack stove. I can't decide between a canister (iso-butane) stove, and a white can (liquid gas) stove .

I've been doing quite a bit of research, but I'd simply like some opinions.
Anyone with an opinion will help. I've been looking at the Jetboil and MSR mostly.

Obviously I'll be boiling water, but also I'll use it to fry up some fish-hopefully lots of fish....

:ne_nau:
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Sombeech



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject:  

Hey, welcome to the forum! :2thumbs:

When I've been backpacking with my friends, I would see the other types of models and styles. It would always seem the white gas took a little more work to get "just right", by pumping in the gas. It also seemed that if your water boiled faster than expected, the rest of the gas would be wasted(?) but not sure on that one.

I've been really happy with my butane. The stove just sits right ontop of the canister. It seems to take up the least amount of space as well.

Good luck.
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accadacca



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject:  

There was a little discussion on here a while back talking about jet boil stoves

http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2160&highlight=jet+boil
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Mtnman1830



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject:  

I have a MSR Pocket Rocket, and it works great. I have used it when we went to Signal Peak, the elevation was close to 4500' and I used it close to sea level. I have had no problems with it, and it is small and don't take up a lot of room.

I have used it to boil water for de-hydrated meals, and to warm up cans of soup

http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/pocket_rocket.asp
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paraAdams



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject:  

I've been really happy with my butane. The stove just sits right ontop of the canister. It seems to take up the least amount of space as well.

For a five day trip in the summer, how many 4 oz. canisters did you pack along with you? And what do you do with them when they're empty?
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paraAdams



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Jet Boil...  

accadacca wrote: There was a little discussion on here a while back talking about jet boil stoves

http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2160&highlight=jet+boil

The only thing I don't get about the Jet boil is this: can you use it to cook a fish in a frying pan? Or is it only for water?
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Sombeech



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject:  

paraAdams wrote: For a five day trip in the summer, how many 4 oz. canisters did you pack along with you? And what do you do with them when they're empty?

I only needed one for a full week, and that was cooking water for every meal. I packed in two, just in case. It seems like I've always got about 2 half empty canisters sitting around the house, so I burned them all out on this trip, on purpose, so I wouldn't be packing in 3 next time.
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JimmyD



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject:  

I don't have any experience with the jetboil. I would recommend a butane over white gas. They are extremely easy to use. No pumping, more wind resistant, and they always have a good flame.
Although I do know some people that still like white gas, I think they are just stubborn and don't want to change over. You will have whatever you are cooking way faster with the iso-butane.

I have an msr superfly and a snowpeak giga power. The superfly is larger and more stable for pots and pans but the snowpeak packs down extremely small. I like them both but I seem to take the snowpeak most of the time.

I would recommend not getting one with an ignitor because they seem to go out too soon for me. But i could just be doing something wrong. I figure I always take matches or a lighter anyway so it is no big deal.
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject:  

I have had JetBoil for over a year now and about 10+ camping/backpacking trips on it. I am still going on the single can of gas and love the stove. It's a little bigger than most stoves, but it comes prepacked with a cup already.

itchy saw the stove in action last weekend, not sure what he thought aobut it. I think he cooked oatmeal in it. I usually use it for hot water (dehydrated meals and hot drinks). I would strongly recommend looking at JetBoil.

I also have the MSR Whisper stove, I will gladly sell it to you if you like, since it's just collecting dust in my garage.
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Glockguy



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject:  

Jey Boil is the way to go. Look at their website for some good recipies.
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JimmyD



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject:  

Can you cook with a pan using jetboil?

If you can, I'm sold.
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paraAdams



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Jet Boil  

Does anyone who uses the Jetboil use it for anything other than water? That's what I care to know....

Does it work with a frying pan for fish?
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject:  

I never really cooked anything on it, so I can't say for sure, but you can adjust the heat with a knob. itchy was able to cook oatmeal on it....where it requires low heat.

All jetboil does is disperse the heat with the patented heat exchanger. It helps with the wind and the heat loss. It also collapses very nicely in itself (included cup).
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject:  

Now that I think about it, you can NOT place a frying pan on top of the JetBoil system. You might want to look at this JetBoil Group system (url is too large, go to rei.com and search for JetBoil)
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shagster



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject:  

I use a white gas stove, Coleman Apex II. Never had any problems with it. Cheap to run, and easy to use. I used one and a half 16 oz. bottles of gas boiling water for two people, three times a day for five days. This stove also packs down nice and small.
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