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soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

Here's another short video of running Skull Hole . . .

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3899806752363077845

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

Whoa!!!! I am sea sick! I am doing that in March.... looks scarey... lots of screams!!!!

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

I love paddle boats in Westwater Canyon. The water can be pretty cold in March. Brrrrr . . .

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: I love paddle boats in Westwater Canyon. The water can be pretty cold in March. Brrrrr . . .

That's what I am afraid of.... but who is going to turn down an invite to spend 2 weeks in the Grand Canyon on the river. :five:

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

Ahhh . . . I thought you were talking about Westwater Canyon. The water in the GC is much colder. Comes off the bottom of the reservoir. But, the weather should be a little warmer. Have you done the GC before?

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: Ahhh . . . I thought you were talking about Westwater Canyon. The water in the GC is much colder. Comes off the bottom of the reservoir. But, the weather should be a little warmer. Have you done the GC before?

Nope.. .first time doing anything like this. I am a hiker and have hiked on the North Rim side quite a bit. I went kayaking in Zion last summer. That was a blast!

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

It's the trip of a lifetime, but be prepared. The water at Lee's Ferry is about 45 degrees. My trip this year is in August/September and I'm still taking neoprene.

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: It's the trip of a lifetime, but be prepared. The water at Lee's Ferry is about 45 degrees. My trip this year is in August/September and I'm still taking neoprene.

My partner and I are hiking in at Phantom Ranch then out at Whitmore Wash because he cannot be gone the whole 4 Weeks. Does that make it better? We are going March 10th until April 1st. I think we have some dry suits for the trip. I cannot imagine sitting around in my 5mm Wet Suit for 2 weeks. Any more tips! I am a newbie at this!

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

I've probably got more tips than you want. I've been doing this for 30 years. Hmmm . . . not sure I should have admitted that. The water temperature increases about one degree every 20 miles, maybe less at that time of year. I would definitely wear a drysuit in March. On warm weather trips we just wear neoprene for the big rapids, then take it off. The other thing I would suggest is take warm clothes for camp and waterproof shoes, but being an outdoor person, I'm sure you know all that. A sleeping bag with liners is better than a very cold bag, since the temperature can vary significantly. Then find the best boatman and ask if you can ride with her/him . :naughty:

Are you flying out at Whitmore? You can log onto the River Runners for Wilderness website and order the GC orientation video, free of charge. That could be a good introduction for you. www.rrfw.org

BTW, if anyone is doing a cold weather river trip, I have drysuits available.

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: I've probably got more tips than you want. I've been doing this for 30 years. Hmmm . . . not sure I should have admitted that. The water temperature increases about one degree every 20 miles, maybe less at that time of year. I would definitely wear a drysuit in March. On warm weather trips we just wear neoprene for the big rapids, then take it off. The other thing I would suggest is take warm clothes for camp and waterproof shoes, but being an outdoor person, I'm sure you know all that. A sleeping bag with liners is better than a very cold bag, since the temperature can vary significantly. Then find the best boatman and ask if you can ride with her/him . :naughty:

Are you flying out at Whitmore? You can log onto the River Runners for Wilderness website and order the GC orientation video, free of charge. That could be a good introduction for you. www.rrfw.org

BTW, if anyone is doing a cold weather river trip, I have drysuits available.

Few men are attractive unless they are over 45 (The guys on this group are the exception) :naughty: I am going with a boat full of Pro's. It's a private trip and only one boat going I think. I think the guide is Monty? My hiking partner and him are friends. One guy who is probably going wrote a hiking book for hikes leading from the river. I live fairly close, being on the East side of Zion National Park, so just driving out and setting up a shuttle car-wise.

www.rrfw.org Is that Tom's site? It looks familar. I have a Grand Canyon group (yahoo group) and he posts in it. That looks like his signature on his posts. I would never watch the video. I am bad at that. I never read a trip report before going out either.. or at least read as little as I need.

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

Yes, that is Tom Martin's organization and I assume you're also referring to his hiking book. He also has a river guide that is the best on the market. If Tom is on the trip, I'm sure there's more than one boat. That would be very dangerous in March. The first day past Phantom (your first day on the river) you will see five of the biggest rapids you will ever see.

Make an exception and watch the video. It can answer a lot of questions you may have.

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: Yes, that is Tom Martin's organization and I assume you're also referring to his hiking book. He also has a river guide that is the best on the market. If Tom is on the trip, I'm sure there's more than one boat. That would be very dangerous in March. The first day past Phantom (your first day on the river) you will see five of the biggest rapids you will ever see.

Make an exception and watch the video. It can answer a lot of questions you may have.

Yes, Tom Martin, but I am talking about another book. I could go over to my group and look, but I am trying to work rather than post. :lol8: Can you tell? I think this book is out of print? Oh joy!!!! I will take my motion sickness pills before climbing on board!!! :eek2:

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

I'm sure there are other books, but the only hiking one I'm familiar with is Tom's. What is your group? I belong to a number of email lists, but am not familiar with yours.

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5812 Location: St. George, Utah

soitgos wrote: I'm sure there are other books, but the only hiking one I'm familiar with is Tom's. What is your group? I belong to a number of email lists, but am not familiar with yours.

I looked. Larry Stevens is the author. My partner borrowed a copy of the book and I glanced at it. Does that sound familar.

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Price

Yes. Larry Stevens is a GC legend.