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stefan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Sombeech wrote: stefan wrote: YMMV,
Sorry man, what does that stand for again?
your mileage may vary
i assume you're asking to be friendly in conversation, since a google search will instantaneously bring it up. i tend not to use these acronyms much, but it seemed appropriate here, since everyone's experience and needs are different.
it seems like gallon jugs would be of great, longer term value if their caps were more secure, say like 2 liter bottles. of course 2 liter bottles don't have handles ... is there a happy medium? |
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cachehiker
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard any mention of toilet paper or a trowel. Do you look for Mullein leaves or just hold it for 5 days? Damn, that hurts just thinking about it.
Anyhow, instead of something like a milk jug, I've always carried one or two collapsible platypus reservoirs:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=99398
and stuffed them inside the pack when they aren't needed. I hate having things outside the pack snag on a branch or whatever else. I therefore strive to keep things a little more compact. |
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stefan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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cachehiker wrote: I I've always carried one or two collapsible platypus reservoirs:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=99398
and stuffed them inside the pack when they aren't needed.
yeah, this is what i was referring to as "pouches" instead of bladders. i use the 2 and 3 liter ones without handles. they seem quite sturdy and don't seem to have to much of a leaking problem. good stuff :2thumbs:
but you'll pay for it. i don't mind, since they're important to me, but i do know that many folks would rather not pay and simply resuse something they've already bought ... which i must say is a GREAT idea :mrgreen: |
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Sombeech
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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stefan wrote: Sombeech wrote: stefan wrote: YMMV,
Sorry man, what does that stand for again?
your mileage may vary
ahh, ok. Thanks.
As for the milk jugs, they're not technically MILK containers. We'll buy the jugs full of distilled water at WalMart. I think they're under a buck each. We'll take that water, and fill up our bladders at the trailhead. Then, we're just bringing 2 empty jugs up the trail. They are super easy to fill up, and even easier to pour.
The collapseable ones are a good idea, and they are light. But when it comes to filling them up, sometimes you have to have one hand on them just to stabilize them, or hold the opening upright. Then when your pouring them, the bigger ones are just monstrous and hard to keep elevated. |
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stefan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sombeech wrote:
The collapseable ones are a good idea, and they are light. But when it comes to filling them up, sometimes you have to have one hand on them just to stabilize them, or hold the opening upright. Then when your pouring them, the bigger ones are just monstrous and hard to keep elevated.
true. the 2,3 liter ones are a little bit more stable to prop against one's leg and they don't seem to flop around TOO much. when i am filling them with a water filter, i don't have anything at the end of it, so a good part of the tube is sitting inside the platapus. i haven't needed the other hand except for certain moments, but i definitely admit, having the jugs is a lot easier than balancing the bag. but i wasn't trying to convince you either, though it may have sounded like it. i only was indicating my preference and why.
cheers! |
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Sombeech
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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stefan wrote: but i wasn't trying to convince you either, though it may have sounded like it. i only was indicating my preference and why.
cheers!
No prob. :2thumbs: Shagster is actually going up with a 5 gallon collapseable jug, so we'll see how he does. |
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Sombeech
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I just bought some 100% DEET, and a head net. That should keep 'em away.
I'm pondering a fillet knife... I dunno yet. I'm going to cook all of my fish in foil on the fire. It would be nice to just cook the meat. |
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packfish
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| I like using the bladders that come inside the wine boxes. They roll up, light weight and have a tap on them. I have taken those mesh bags we all have around and cut a whole and plastic wire tied it off so you can hang them on a tree in camp. |
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shagster
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Where did you get your 100% deet? I looked everywhere I could think of and could not find anything over 25%. |
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Sombeech
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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shagster wrote: Where did you get your 100% deet? I looked everywhere I could think of and could not find anything over 25%.
Sportsman's warehouse in Riverdale. It's Muskol brand $4.99 |
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Richard Barron
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My wife is totally sold on the sports drink thing - she carries one water bottle and one bottle with a Gatorade type drink in it - and claims it makes a big difference in her endurance.
Also, may I ask why you want to bring a sidearm? If you are not hunting, it adds quite a bit of weight.
-R |
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KillEmAll
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Sombeech wrote: shagster wrote: Where did you get your 100% deet? I looked everywhere I could think of and could not find anything over 25%.
Sportsman's warehouse in Riverdale. It's Muskol brand $4.99
Just saw some last night at Walmart for $3.89. |
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KillEmAll
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Richard Barron wrote: My wife is totally sold on the sports drink thing - she carries one water bottle and one bottle with a Gatorade type drink in it - and claims it makes a big difference in her endurance.
Also, may I ask why you want to bring a sidearm? If you are not hunting, it adds quite a bit of weight.
-R
Bears! Although the pistol might just piss 'em off even more. That's why I'm packing in my 12 guage. :lol8: |
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Sombeech
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: |
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KillEmAll wrote: Sombeech wrote: Sportsman's warehouse in Riverdale. It's Muskol brand $4.99
Just saw some last night at Walmart for $3.89.
Really? The highest I saw there was 37%, and it had the "extreme outdoors" quote on it :roll: Where did you find it? |
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Richard Barron
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| The only handgun even remotely capable of discouraging a bear would be a .357 magnum or .44 magnum, and those things weigh a ton. |
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