Bogley

[rockgremlin]

Sooo......you're just crazy enough to attempt the Black Hole huh?

Are you bringing a wetsuit? I'm intrigued...I might just follow ya.

[Iceaxe]

I'm not really worried about the Black Hole.... its not a big deal for experianced canyoneers (hikers maybe). And you can always just reverse course if you don't like what you find. If no one wants to go with me I'll be doing it solo, which means I don't really think a too scary.

I'll bring a wet suit down with me but I highly doubt that I'll carry it. I've never used a wetsuit before in the Hole. But then again, I don't get cold easy. I probably have a couple extra shorties around the house I could toss in. That is more then enough protection in August. We are already going to cook.

You Montecello guys could also hit Fry on your way home. Or maybe after Cheese Box if anyone is up for it.


Black Hole

[rockgremlin]

Nope. I think you talked me into 'doin the Hole' with ya.

These Monticello guys I'm bringing along have heard stories about the Black Hole, and really want to do it.

Maybe we'll hit Fry Canyon after Cheesebox, and then do the Hole on Sunday. Three canyons in one trip! :2thumbs:

We'll see....

[Iceaxe]

Here is a pic of my hot, young, stripper wife in the Black Hole.....

......now stop typing with one hand.......

:roflol:

[rockgremlin]

To all planning on joining in on this trip:

Be sure to remember to pack your lunch in either a drybag, or triple bagged in ziplock bags, or your bologna sandwiches might get a little soggy.

Also remember to bring several changes of clothes and shoes. This trip will be WET!!

Hey Kazak - you're bringin the camera right?

[Alex]

Sounds like it's gonna be one hell of a trip, hell ya I am bringin a camera. In fact two of them. One is a helmet mounted and one with extra zoom in my dry bag.

Ice, I will take that ride with you if you don't mind and pay gas on the way home. Can I leave my car at your place then?

[Iceaxe]

Kazak wrote: Ice, I will take that ride with you if you don't mind and pay gas on the way home. Can I leave my car at your place then?

Yes sir..... you can even park in my garage if your beast don't leak oil :haha:

At the moment I'm thinking a 4:30 or 5 take-off from my house. Ping me side-band and we can work out the details.

[Alex]

Sounds good, so are we coming back Sunday?

[Iceaxe]

Kazak wrote: Sounds good, so are we coming back Sunday?

I am :haha:

[RAM]

Directions to the Soldiers Grave:
From the Utah town of Hanksville drive south on highway 95 for 67 miles. The Cheesebox Road (San Juan County Road 227a or 2271) is located on the north side of highway 95 at mile marker 66.8. This is also the location of the "Soldier's Grave".


Pretty sure 66.8 is the the old mile marker. They have changed. Seeing that 28.4 is now 28.1, a guess is that it may be around mile marker 66 now. Not easy to see at night. Have fun.
Ram :wave:

[RAM]

I'm not really worried about the Black Hole.... its not a big deal

The Elvis Dog is right. The Hole is 90% back to normal and casual. Jams are mostly gone and stuff is no longer teetering. When in doubt, tunnel and go low

I'll bring a wet suit down with me but I highly doubt that I'll carry it.

June-September historically is non wet suit in the Hole. YMMV.
Enjoy the Cheese too. The west fork has been ascended many times(1 aid spot pre set- shoulder stand and cam aid and descended without a rope many times too, but is normally done with 1, 20 foot rappel, at the aid spot (scary stem or slide if water deep enough). Further down, 2 larger drops are downclimbable, but exposed (and belayable-second with a #3 cam) at class 4 to low class 5. Look around at the drops and find the inobvious ways, if it pleases you. Lots of fun. I hope you have good quality water and reasonable temps. This time of year is not prime season there (March, April, October) and because it drains a forested area, vegetable matter finds its way in on certain floods. In good conditions, an absolute delight.
Ram :nod:

[rockgremlin]

I pooched some beta on Cheesebox from a Jared H. over on the Yahoo Canyon forums. Here's what he had to say about a recent trip down Cheesebox:

"For those who haven't been there it is a nice mixture of walk, swim, stem, squeeze, walk, swim, walk, rap, walk, rap, swim, swim, swim, walk etc. It was a great canyon with good mixtures of everything. All of the anchors looked like they had recently been replaced and after re-checking them we did not have to re-do any of them. Some slings placed in places that seemed unnecessary, but no time to take them out. The water levels were not quite at full in some places high water marks were still 1-2 feet above water level."

Thanks Jared, looks like fun! :2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

RAM wrote: Pretty sure 66.8 is the the old mile marker. They have changed. Seeing that 28.4 is now 28.1, a guess is that it may be around mile marker 66 now. Not easy to see at night. Have fun.

Actually one of my boys checked it out a couple weeks ago and said the mile markers along 95 in this area only moved about 0.1 miles.

But.... I have just updated my webpages to the new mile markers.

Is it worth hiking all the way out Cheese Box to 95 or is this just a long slog with a few narrows? Remember we will be dragging noob's along.

:popcorn:

[rockgremlin]

For Cheesebox - I was considering doing the east fork, and bailing out about half-way through, since all of the good stuff is in the upper part of the canyon. If we bail out early, we may have time to visit Fry Canyon, or the west fork of Cheesebox.

[Iceaxe]

I believe the West Fork (as shown on Tom's website) is the "Standard Route". But I have never done Cheesebox and don't know what would be considered the "best" route". I'm open for suggestions.......

I'm moving the Cheesebox route decussion to its own thread.....
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22617

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