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hike2kolob



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Salt Lake

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject:  

bruce from bryce wrote: Another great canyon and TR Jason. You are obviously the star of our class. The skills you are learning are great. Super photos.

Thanks Bruce. Uh.. if star means, schedule a week off, attend a Toms fest, have some experienced folk drag your butt through some cool canyons and shamelessly post pics...yea, I'm a star alright! :roflol:

Good to see you in Zion. Looked like you had your own fest going. :2thumbs:
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Iceaxe



Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Posts: 7793
Location: Local Bordello

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject:  

hike2kolob wrote: if star means, schedule a week off, attend a Toms fest, have some experienced folk drag your butt through some cool canyons and shamelessly post pics...yea, I'm a star alright! :roflol:

:lol8:

Tom makes stars of us all :nod:
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ratagonia



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 455
Location: Quiet and charming: Mount Carmel

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Careful Rigging = Easy Cleaning  

Iceaxe wrote: KISS = How about a clove hitch on a biner. You rig one line for the guide and one line to rappel on.

Of course using the KISS method you don't get to show off the skills you learned at knot tying school.

Or we could rig anther 100 ways that are just as simple. I picked this method to demo because I had a picture of a clove hitch on my computer.

I thought I'd get it tighter with a Munter-Mule, but I didn't. Three days later, did the same rig with a Clove hitch. The second biner helps hold the knot off the rock. The clipped-in fig 8 secures the rope for the ropebag-toss, and could be cleaned before rapping, should one want to.

The important rigging point, Scott, is to reverse the roles of the lines after the first person goes. The END of the rope is tied off securely and becomes the guideline. That goes back through the ring, and then BLOCKED, so that the guideline is blocked. The "wrong" side of the block then becomes the rappel line. (For all but the last person, it is probably better to tie this off to the anchor).

It is obviously important that the bottom anchor be absolutely 100%. By reversing the roles, the rig can be cleaned by pulling through the short end of the rope, after untying the anchored end of the guideline.

Clear?

Tom
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Scott Card



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 1503
Location: Provo, Utah

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject:  

Clearer than the sky you had at the last rap :haha: Surprisingly to those that know me, it is clear and sounds quick and efficient. Seems like the trick is to get a good throw of the pot shot and a good placement for the first guy or else he/she goes in the drink or in deep. Then out come the bat hooks or happy hooker. Thanks for the explanation.
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