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shaggy125 · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:

Iceaxe wrote: Where are you getting your info that the new Canyoneers will NOT be yellow and black? Far as I know they are still going to be bumble-bees. 5.10 has some other products coming that might be good for canyoneering that are a different color.

Just the small amount of info I got from the dude at the Black Diamond Store. He said that 5.10 is re-vamping all of their trail shoes this year, they would be a different color, and they are scheduled to get the new canyoneers Feb. 1st. He might be wrong on the date though if you saw March as the release date. :ne_nau:

dbessee · Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Longmont, CO

As usual you folks have a great, practical take on this stuff.

Thanks for the great info all around. Sounds like the 5.10's will be a good investment when I get some experience and start looking to increase skills/challenge/frequency of canyons.

BTW - Picked up an ATC-XP. We were practicing self/team rescue and I ended up not getting enough friction out of the straight ATC when taking both mine and another climbers weight. Kept hitting the autoblock because I couldn't get the control I needed with that much weight on single strand 10mm (about 350# and it was live weight, as in "hold still or I'll knock you out myself!!!"). The XP really makes a difference, stops you COLD on 10mm with little or no effort.

Thanks again,

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7759 Location: Local Bordello

It looks like anyone wanting 5.10 Canyoneers is out of luck... It appears production has been halted for anther year and the new version of the shoe currently dubbed "Canyoneer 2" will not be released until the Spring of 2007. I found the following on Zion Adventures website. Zion Adventure usually has the straight dope on the Canyoneers.

After many years working with 5.10 at the design table with low, mid, and variable iterations of shoes, we came up with today's design. Proven over the last 4 years to be the most popular canyoneering shoe in both the US and Europe, this shoe has limited production in the US for 2006. Zion Adventure Company is the only retailer for these shoes in North America. Delivery of the Canyoneer 2, an upgraded version, has been halted for this coming season as we refine materials and attempt to rebuild the shoe from the ground up. We look forward to offering this new revision, the Canyoneer 2 in late Spring of 2007.

http://www.zionadventures.com/store/detail.amp?prodcatserial=303705

jumar · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Lehi, UT

Well that sucks

shaggy125 · Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject:

I know it's a little late but I thought I would chime in a little here. I bought a pair of Canyoneers a few weeks ago and finally was able to really put them to the test this last week. I had planned on doing three canyons plus a backpack trip in them. We ended up only doing 2 canyons, but still did the backpack trip. The Canyoneers were the only pair of shoes I wore the whole trip (besides the time around camp where I just wore socks). I was hesitant to do this because of all the rumors I had heard about them being a terrible approach shoe etc... They seem loose on me but I decided an extra pair of shoes wasn't worth the extra weight, my pack already weighed near 60 lbs. My canyoneers were awesome, no blisters, no nothing. My feet were no more tired or beat up than any other pair of shoes I've worn, and with neoprene socks they were MUCH more comfy then my old pair of trial runners. The sticky rubber is awesome, I was really impressed. I don't know why they get a bad rap with some people, I thought they were worth every penny. I do agree they are pretty ugly though.

Eric.

P.S. TR of the backpack trip to come eventually. A short video of Trail Canyon probably tomorrow, just waiting on Google Video to post it.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7759 Location: Local Bordello

shaggy125 wrote: I don't know why they get a bad rap with some people, I thought they were worth every penny. I do agree they are pretty ugly though.

The bad rap comes from some fall apart really fast and some don't. And its really just the luck of the draw to see if you get a good pair or not. It dose help the life if you shoe goo all the seams and where the stealth rubber bonds to the shoe. The shoe goo looks ugly, but really extends the life of the shoe...

agusta · Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1

The 5-10 Canyoneering shoes do not come in women's sizes. The toe box is too wide and by the end of a long slog the lack of support takes its toll and my feet just plain ache. I wear my Montrail approach shoes and the sticky rubber works fine.

Carol

rock_ski_cowboy · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 442

Hansen's Mountaineering (aka High Adventure Sports) at about 1900 N State St. in Orem is closing out their stock of Canyoneers for 59 dollars. Unfortunately it looked like the only sizes they have are between 7 and 8.5. If you are small footed, you may want to call and check if they have your size because this is a great deal.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7759 Location: Local Bordello

I hear Five-Ten will have Canyoneers for sale in May.

Some are saying these are the new style Canyoneer 2, some are saying these are part of a production run of the old style to help cover the shortage until the Canyoneer 2 is released in 2007.

Anyhoo.... looks like you will be able to buy Five-Ten Canyoneers soon. :wallbash:

marc olivares · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 614 Location: sugarhouse

rock_ski_cowboy wrote: Hansen's Mountaineering (aka High Adventure Sports) at about 1900 N State St. in Orem is closing out their stock of Canyoneers for 59 dollars. Unfortunately it looked like the only sizes they have are between 7 and 8.5. If you are small footed, you may want to call and check if they have your size because this is a great deal.

hey thanks for the tip...my wife just stopped by and kicked me up a spare pair! :2thumbs:

she also said that the sales person said that they were expecting the "new" shoe from 5.10 but couldn't say when.
i wonder if these are the ones that shane is refering to?

@ $60 a pair, i'll buy all the have.... :haha:

rock_ski_cowboy · Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 442

marc olivares wrote:
hey thanks for the tip...my wife just stopped by and kicked me up a spare pair! :2thumbs:

she also said that the sales person said that they were expecting the "new" shoe from 5.10 but couldn't say when.
i wonder if these are the ones that shane is refering to?

@ $60 a pair, i'll buy all the have.... :haha:

Sometimes I curse my Size 10 feet and size large body. I never have luck finding any shoes at close-out prices or being the only bidder on wetsuits, jackets, etc. on Ebay!

marc olivares · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 614 Location: sugarhouse

RRRRrrrr pissed:

F'n 5.10's....
so my wife brought me home a 8.5 which is what my other pair is...
and they are sized about 2 sizes small... man they need to get their shit together. she said they had 4 pair left (2-7's, 1-8, and the 8.5 she got me, which is now going back)

the size inconsistency is my biggest complaint about these shoes!

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3983 Location: Hotel California

If it's an issue of a mis-marked size, can't you send them back to 5.10 to get a "true" 8.5?

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7759 Location: Local Bordello

marc olivares wrote: the size inconsistency is my biggest complaint about these shoes!

I'll ROGER that......

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1397 Location: Provo, Utah

I am also worried about the little straps. Mine over the years have taken a beating but have held up better than the sole. Also, any drains? Where are the drains? I am easily entertained by water squirting out the sides of my shoes when I step out of the water. I need drains.

Scott Card