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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Scott Patterson wrote: but I assume the Arch data base might not follow this rule and probably isn't as strict?
Best as I can tell the arch database in managed by a group of arch enthusiasts for their enjoyment/amusment. They don't seem to be hung up on many of the naming rules that accompany other sports/hobbies/USGS/yada yada...... I find it a refreshing approach.
Anyhoo..... whenever I submit an arch or bridge to the NBAS I include any known name or any name my group has been using. To date they have always included the names I have presented in their database.
The NBAS currently have two arches in their database that include my kids nicknames..... the kids love it.... and I could really careless if it's considered bad form by some government organization.... YMMV.
Maybe I will name my next major discovery "Ice's Big Ol' Frickin' Arch" :lol8:
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tanya
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Scott Patterson wrote: Quote: I might need to register it and call it McNally's Arch after my friend!
If you are curious, now days, it is considered very bad practice to name any geographic feature after a person until they are deceased. Names for the living are not accepted by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, but I assume the Arch data base might not follow this rule and probably isn't as strict?
PS, looks like a cool arch. :2thumbs:
I've never liked naming things in nature after a person. I like the name to reflect the area. Old-timers came up with great names - if you can find what the locals call it. There is this cool arch at the Wave and a woman named it after herself. Its sort of okay though since her name is Melody. I thought it was named for the wind blowing through it or something until it was pointed out to me it was the woman who found it.
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Scott P
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: I've never liked naming things in nature after a person. I like the name to reflect the area. Old-timers came up with great names - if you can find what the locals call it. There is this cool arch at the Wave and a woman named it after herself. Its sort of okay though since her name is Melody.
I tend to agree. Sometimes someone’s name just happen to fit though, as you point out. Besides that one, here are a few examples:
Angel Falls (Venezuela) was named after Jimmy Angel
Camp Hazard (Mount Rainier) was named after a person
One name that doesn’t fit that well is Snow Canyon. It was named after a person, but it hardly ever snows there. They should have named Snow Canyon something near Cedar Breaks.
Otherwise, it is better to use an existing name on a nearby object, or a discriptive one. :2thumbs:
Quote: Best as I can tell the arch database in managed by a group of arch enthusiasts for their enjoyment/amusment.
Who's enjoyment? Only the discoverer? The last thing we need is more names like Shane's Arch, Bob's Arch, or Scott's Arch. :nono:
Besides...... :naughty:
Quote: Maybe I will name my next major discovery "Ice's Big Ol' Frickin' Arch"
Hmm.....rock towers are phallic symbols and arches are yonic symbols. You trying to tell us something? If I were you, I would name a rock tower after yourself instead. Unless....... :roflol:
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Win
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I like the idea of naming natural features after the area. I know my friend could care less about an arch named after him.
What about an official Forum arch. This one is close to the hiway and easily accesible. People can go by when they're in the area and take a picture with it.
I say we adopt it and have a naming contest. I'll even donate a
prize.
Your thoughts.
Win |
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Brewhaha
Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Location: Monticello, UT
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I would definitely encourage anyone who knows about these wonderful arches to submit the information to the world arch database. The database is to some arch hunters what climb-utah is to some canyoneers.
When we first got the database we were amazed at how many arches there were in our area that we didn't know about. I am quickly coming to realize that there are many, many more out there that are undocumented. I would love to be able to visit some of your favorites.
Here is are pictures of the first two arches we found that were completely new to us. They were only about 15 minutes away, too. |
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tanya
Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Win wrote: I like the idea of naming natural features after the area. I know my friend could care less about an arch named after him.
What about an official Forum arch. This one is close to the hiway and easily accesible. People can go by when they're in the area and take a picture with it.
I say we adopt it and have a naming contest. I'll even donate a
prize.
Your thoughts.
Win
Games! I LOVE games. :)!!! (quit laughing everyone --- some of us like to play.... ) :twisted:
I need a bit more info. Its at the dunes or close? What is it on or near? Can you point to it on a map! :five: |
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tanya
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Brewhaha wrote: I would definitely encourage anyone who knows about these wonderful arches to submit the information to the world arch database. The database is to some arch hunters what climb-utah is to some canyoneers.
When we first got the database we were amazed at how many arches there were in our area that we didn't know about. I am quickly coming to realize that there are many, many more out there that are undocumented. I would love to be able to visit some of your favorites.
Here is are pictures of the first two arches we found that were completely new to us. They were only about 15 minutes away, too.
What awesome arches!!!! --- Yeah... Shane is Mr. Canyoneer --- that's because he is so agreeable and colorful. :2thumbs: |
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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: |
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When I name things like arches or climbing/canyoneering routes it usually has some meaning related to the discovery of the item, or events leading to the discovery or something that happened related to the trip or......
But just about everything I have ever named has a good story to go along with the name.
Often I poll the group I'm with for good names..... usually someone has a great suggestion.
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Scott P
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Quote: When I name things like arches or climbing/canyoneering routes it usually has some meaning related to the discovery of the item, or events leading to the discovery or something that happened related to the trip or......
Yes, that's much different then just tagging someone's name on it.
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KillEmAll
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Call it uutah.com arch. It sounds natural right? :haha: |
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tanya
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: A couple of my favorites |
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tanya wrote: Win wrote: This one is in Tanyaland, off Hancock Rd, by Coral Pink Dand Dunes:
I really enjoy all the arch pictures, thanks.
Win
Where!?!?!?!?!?! :popcorn: Exact directions please! :nod:
Went to the arch today! I love it! Thanks Win! :rockon: Have a name yet? |
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DiscGo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Here is a list of waypoints for the Utah Arches. I downloaded this attachment from wayhoo.com |
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tanya
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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DiscGolfDivers wrote: Here is a list of waypoints for the Utah Arches. I downloaded this attachment from wayhoo.com
Awesome! I will go through that and see if I have missed any in my area! |
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tanya
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="tanya"] Win wrote: I like the idea of naming natural features after the area. I know my friend could care less about an arch named after him.
What about an official Forum arch. This one is close to the hiway and easily accesible. People can go by when they're in the area and take a picture with it.
I say we adopt it and have a naming contest. I'll even donate a
prize.
Your thoughts.
Win
I would say .. just...
Coral Pink Arch or Coral Pink Sand Dunes Arch? It's probably the only one out there. |
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stefan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="tanya"] tanya wrote: Win wrote: I like the idea of naming natural features after the area. I know my friend could care less about an arch named after him.
What about an official Forum arch. This one is close to the hiway and easily accesible. People can go by when they're in the area and take a picture with it.
I say we adopt it and have a naming contest. I'll even donate a
prize.
Your thoughts.
Win
I would say .. just...
Coral Pink Arch or Coral Pink Sand Dunes Arch? It's probably the only one out there.
or perhaps Coral Arch ... if you want to just wanna go simple |
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