Bogley

Last Child · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 715

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3948526

Both of these guys are idiots.

Edit: Thought about this a bit more...maybe the guy on the bike was not hanging on to the mirror as being a smart ass as I originally thought. Maybe he was scared $^itless and was trying to keep the truck away as one might do in a panic situation.

I recant my idiocy.

accadacca · Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 8043 Location: 1n73rw3b

What an :asshat:

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 6172 Location: Not Sure

Keep your hands to yourself :haha:

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

I dunno. :ne_nau: I was driving down past all those bikers on Saturday and the road was very crowded for nearly the entire distance from near Bald Mountain pass down to the Beaver Creek. It was obvious to any driver that this was a large organized event. Many areas along that road there is no shoulder and there was a lot of vehicle traffic in both directions. Some bikers were riding two abreast (maybe just to pass?), and many drivers in wide vehicles just wouldn't slow down when conditions became especially dangerous.

If the guy really swerved at the bikers (and is appears he did) he deserves 10 good whacks with a frame pump. I've come close to being mirrored a number of times while minding my own business and trying to stay out of the way as much as possible and it's very disturbing. :eek2: :frustrated:

Many riders believe (and it seems to hold true) that if you try and stay close to the edge of the pavement, drivers will try to squeeze close by you, but if you give yourself plenty of room, they won't come so close. Again, it seems to be a correct observation.

Anyway, hanging on the mirror may well have saved the cyclist's life - nobody would do that unless there were no other option. :nono:

fourtycal · Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 1000 Location: Midvale

After watching the completely one sided story and interview of the rider on the news last night I feel a little bad for the driver. The rider that was hit sounded like a total hothead and very likely did something to provoke the driver, who had probably been stuck behind a slow pack of riders for some time which would make any driver angry. None of it justifies the drivers action but I still feel bad for him.
Just because there is a 3 foot rule doesn't mean a biker is more deserving of the lane than the car, get over to the side and give faster traffic every opportunity to pass, it's just common sense.

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

Quote: The rider that was hit sounded like a total hothead

I would think most of us would be a bit hot :angryfire: if somebody just tried to run us over and destroyed our $4000 bike. Just sayin'...

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 6172 Location: Not Sure

UTJetdog wrote: if somebody just tried to run us over
I'm sure if he tried, he would have succeeded :mrgreen: Again, little slanted story.

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

Well, he was arrested for Aggrevated Assault...

fourtycal · Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 1000 Location: Midvale

UTJetdog wrote: Well, he was arrested for Aggrevated Assault...

And deservedly so.

And the rider will get tons of sympathy and get to cry to reporters and everyone will feel sorry for him and completely side with him... when very likely he did some provoking. It is a slanted story. I want to hear an honest statement from the driver, it will never happen so I'm making up my own :haha:

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

Why do you think he provoked the driver? The report said he swerved at several riders before the "mirror hanging" occurred. Granted, news reports are often not very accurate, but what have I missed? :ne_nau: What provocation?

flinstone · Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 42 Location: west jordan, Utah

I am going to side with fortycal on this. But the driver should never have gone as far as to try and run the guy over.

fourtycal · Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 1000 Location: Midvale

UTJetdog wrote: Why do you think he provoked the driver?

Because his bike got ran over and it wasn't an accident.

Why do you think a driver would do such a thing without provocation?

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

Quote: Why do you think a driver would do such a thing without provocation?

Because he was ticked off at having to share the road with over 1000 cyclists and they were slowing him down. I think he simply got mad and overreacted. JMO, just like your provocation theory is just your own opinion.

It would be interesting to read the actual police report. We can probably at least agree on that. :2thumbs:

I will say that I've had people swear, curse, and nearly mirror me simply because I was there riding a bike - totally unprovoked except for the fact that I was taking up a little room on the road shoulder. And they had additional lanes to move into. That was not the case on Hwy. 150 last Saturday, no extra lanes and often no shoulder. I didn't get that from a news report - I was there.

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 6172 Location: Not Sure

UTJetdog wrote: Because he was ticked off at having to share the road with over 1000 cyclists and they were slowing him down.
Ohh, and the cyclist wasn't ticked off? Why is he hanging onto a vehicles mirror in the first place? Keep your toys in the playground :roflol:

I love how you said he was arrested :lol8: It's funny how the cops did the right thing when it proves ones point, yet the same ones will slam them at the drop of a hat :lol8:

UTJetdog · Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 42 Location: American Fork

When did I ever slam the police at the drop of a hat or otherwise?

Quote: Keep your toys in the playground

A comment like that makes it seem you're just angry at having to share the road with cyclists too. Hmmmm.