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DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4013

Axpence wrote: i think drunk driving should be a mandatory year community service/every year after that you are taxed 25% more than usual.

Some jail time on top of that, and I am totally with you.

Axpence wrote: if you are a drunk driver reading this i hope you die...

Yikes Alex. Where did I go wrong with you? I think we should hope that they stop, or they only inflict damage to themselves, etc. You always gotta take it to the next level :D

DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4013

That picture is crazy. I hope people were able to get away as scathed free as possible.

TreeHugger wrote:

First of all, bikes do have the same rights as cars, by law. As such, they are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. And as such, drivers must treat them as a VEHICLE, meaning, if the road is too narrow, without a bike lane, for a car to fully fit, with three feet or more of a buffer to pass, the bike HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and can, by law, take the full lane, the driver must wait behind and pass when it is clear.

TREEHUGGER- We agree 100%! This is awesome! I wonder if this means I am liberal now :D (J/K).

I believe that bikers should be protected to the fullest extent of the law, more people should try and ride when they can and if the only way people can be safe is to drive a giant SUV our gas prices will go through the rough and our environment will be go down quickly.

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 5778 Location: Not Sure

TreeHugger wrote: First of all, bikes do have the same rights as cars, by law. As such, they are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road.
Instead of making this anti-vehicle, let's not leave out the bikes. The ones that do not stop at stop signs and the ones that feel just because they're wearing a fancy little helmet, rules of the road do not apply to them. I've seen tons of accidents where the cyclists were at fault of the accidents they were involved in. From kids that didn't know any better to arrogant adults that should have known better.

Obviously what I just said doesn't apply to the pic above.

DiscGo wrote: TREEHUGGER- We agree 100%! This is awesome! I wonder if this means I am liberal now :D (J/K).
I think not :lol8:

TreeHugger · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1068

JP wrote: TreeHugger wrote: First of all, bikes do have the same rights as cars, by law. As such, they are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road.
Instead of making this anti-vehicle, let's not leave out the bikes. The ones that do not stop at stop signs and the ones that feel just because they're wearing a fancy little helmet, rules of the road do not apply to them. I've seen tons of accidents where the cyclists were at fault of the accidents they were involved in. From kids that didn't know any better to arrogant adults that should have known better.

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Oh, I totally agree. As I said, the cyclists, as well, are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. I'm an avid cyclist and I have always maintained that we all need to be advocates for ourselves by being respectful to drivers and and the laws.

TreeHugger · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1068

DiscGo wrote:
TREEHUGGER- We agree 100%! This is awesome! I wonder if this means I am liberal now :D (J/K).

:haha: I seriously doubt it, my friend, but it's a start! :wink:

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 5778 Location: Not Sure

TreeHugger wrote: Oh, I totally agree. As I said, the cyclists, as well, are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. I'm an avid cyclist and...

...I have always maintained that we all need to be advocates for ourselves by being respectful to drivers and and the laws.
Just throwing in that both sides need to pay attention :2thumbs: There's good and bad on two and four wheels :mrgreen:

I couldn't agree more with your last statement and I'm not even liberal :lol8:

BruteForce · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:

TreeHugger wrote:
Oh, I totally agree. As I said, the cyclists, as well, are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. I'm an avid cyclist and I have always maintained that we all need to be advocates for ourselves by being respectful to drivers and and the laws.

Now if only the motorcyclists would do the same.

I chuckle (then growl) a bit everytime I see a bumper sticker that says "Watch out for Motorcycles".

Between my house and 6200 South & Redwood, almost every motorcyclists drives like there are no lanes, blinkers have never been invented and there's some bikini show down the street! :nono:

davis_b_1 · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: On www.bogley.com

TreeHugger wrote: Ih8grvty wrote: ... the ones that ride in the middle of the lane, not sliding over so I can pass them... those are the ones that i think about giving a friendly 'bump' on the rear tire.

If bikers (most are good about it but some :frustrated: ) used some common sense and stopped the attitude that they have the same rights as a car, ...

First of all, bikes do have the same rights as cars, by law. As such, they are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. And as such, drivers must treat them as a VEHICLE, meaning, if the road is too narrow, without a bike lane, for a car to fully fit, with three feet or more of a buffer to pass, the bike HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and can, by law, take the full lane, the driver must wait behind and pass when it is clear.

Bikes should NOT be legal on the road unless they are licensed and insured just like EVERY other vehicle on the road. Once you have to pay the same as I do for using the road then I will be more than happy to share it with you as long as you get the hell over when I am coming.

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 5778 Location: Not Sure

davis_b_1 wrote: Bikes should NOT be legal on the road unless they are licensed and insured just like EVERY other vehicle on the road. Once you have to pay the same as I do for using the road then I will be more than happy to share it with you as long as you get the hell over when I am coming.
Huh, wow.... Good point :mrgreen: Interesting point :mrgreen:

DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4013

davis_b_1 wrote:
Bikes should NOT be legal on the road unless they are licensed and insured just like EVERY other vehicle on the road. Once you have to pay the same as I do for using the road then I will be more than happy to share it with you as long as you get the hell over when I am coming.

I doubt this is really an issue over which any of us can really disagree very strongly, but who knows :D.

I bike to work (usually anyway), I own two cars which are registered and I am fully insured in which ever car I am driving. I just think that riding my bike is good for me (both physically and financially) and is good for the environment, plus it is good for the other drivers because there is one less car on the road blocking you from the next stop light before it turns.

Wouldn't I then be entitled to have road shared with me while on my bike?

JP · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 5778 Location: Not Sure

DiscGo wrote: Wouldn't I then be entitled to have road shared with me while on my bike?
But, when you're at fault at an accident, what "B" brought up fits. You're still entitled, but having a little more responsibility if there are consequences to your actions. Why not be an insured bicyclist? Having a registered bicycle? After all, you are using the same roadways we are, for the same purposes :lol8:

ericchile · Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Midway

TreeHugger wrote: Ih8grvty wrote: ... the ones that ride in the middle of the lane, not sliding over so I can pass them... those are the ones that i think about giving a friendly 'bump' on the rear tire.

If bikers (most are good about it but some :frustrated: ) used some common sense and stopped the attitude that they have the same rights as a car, ...

First of all, bikes do have the same rights as cars, by law. As such, they are expected to follow the same rules and laws of the road. And as such, drivers must treat them as a VEHICLE, meaning, if the road is too narrow, without a bike lane, for a car to fully fit, with three feet or more of a buffer to pass, the bike HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and can, by law, take the full lane, the driver must wait behind and pass when it is clear.

Yes and all bikes need to obey all traffic laws. ...When was the last time you saw a bike stop at a stop sign?

Sombeech · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 12600 Location: The Rubbish Bin

:lol8: Yeah, cyclists usually have cars that they've paid taxes and insurance on too.

davis_b_1 · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: On www.bogley.com

DiscGo wrote:
Wouldn't I then be entitled to have road shared with me while on my bike?
I am just saying that if you are using your bicycle on the road for transportation that you should be Licensed & Insured.
Sombeech wrote: :lol8: Yeah, cyclists usually have cars that they've paid taxes and insurance on too.
In that case I pay taxes & insurance on my Explorer, so why do I have to pay taxes & insurance on my Corolla?
and my Motor Home?

Just to let you know, I move over and share the road with bikes.

DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4013

Davis-
I think you actually make a good point about adding the bike like another car, but I don't think we as tax payers should have to pay to have our cars re-registred every year, so I can't be in favor of adding more taxes but I get the point you making.