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DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4015

Hey I have a harness, and I am working on getting a rope. In the end I will get what I need to get to go on this trip, but I thought I would check and see if anyone had any gear they could lend me.

P.S. I have been in some very cold water during my life, and have been leaning away from renting a wet suit. Is it really so cold that it will be worth the money to me when I am in the canyon?

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

It's better be safe than sorry. I believe you can rent it locally in Zion Adventure Company. Also, UoU rec program rents them pretty cheap as well

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 849 Location: Southern Utah

DiscGo wrote: Hey I have a harness, and I am working on getting a rope. In the end I will get what I need to get to go on this trip, but I thought I would check and see if anyone had any gear they could lend me.

P.S. I have been in some very cold water during my life, and have been leaning away from renting a wet suit. Is it really so cold that it will be worth the money to me when I am in the canyon?

If you are planning to hike Pine Creek with a large group, it's a really good idea to have a wetsuit or drysuit. You'll be spending a long time at each rappel and it's downright coooooold! Certain to have a much better experience if you are not shivering uncontrollably :2thumbs:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7793 Location: Local Bordello

I would say that harness, large locking biner, rappel device and wetsuit are mandatory.

And Helmet!

Don · Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 712 Location: Utah Valley

I too am going to have to buy or rent a wet suit. Leaning toward purchase because renting something that fits so tight seems creepy. :a:

Recommendations?

ratagonia · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:48 am Post subject:

Iceaxe wrote: I would say that harness, large locking biner, rappel device and wetsuit are mandatory.

Helmet, dear Shane? Or are you a proponent of the 'hard headed' approach for the noobs under your wing?

Those wishing to rent wetsuits from ZAC should make a reservation. 435-772-0990

Tom

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7793 Location: Local Bordello

And Helmets!!!

just wasn't thinking.... I have to much on my plate this morning.

This is all covered in post #1 of the fest thread.

:cool2:

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Las Vegas

Get off the porn sites then. :lol8:

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Las Vegas

ratagonia wrote: Iceaxe wrote: I would say that harness, large locking biner, rappel device and wetsuit are mandatory.

Helmet, dear Shane? Or are you a proponent of the 'hard headed' approach for the noobs under your wing?

Those wishing to rent wetsuits from ZAC should make a reservation. 435-772-0990

Tom

He calls you 'dear' :naughty:

Alex will get jeaous! :eek2:

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

Honestly Tom, you are stepping on private property here....LOL

Also, good sticky shoes help! My first trip out was made in tennis shoes, then I went and bought 5.11 canyoneers and what a difference that made! Gloves also help for noobs like me on the rope, so you don't get rope burn.

If you are bringing a back pack, poke a couple of holes in the bottom for the water drain. I had to do that in the slot canyon because I kept carrying water all over. I bought Tom's pack now and love it! :2thumbs:

Noobs don't need to worry about the rope, some of the pros will bring it. Oh wait, I am bringing Tom's rope.. so I must be a pro now! :cool2:

Don't wear ANY cotton, you will freeze your butt off, bring something that dries quick, something with nylon.

shaggy125 · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:58 am Post subject:

Other options for wetsuits, if you live in SLC there is a dive shop in West Valley that rents for $20 for a week, another here in Ft. Union that rents $20 for 5 days. The mountain shop in Cedar City rents them too. ZAC is expensive but most convenient. As far as buying a wetsuit there is always the Sportsman's Warehouse specials for like $50 but they don't work well for me, too cold. Tom's Hyperflex suits cost more but are warmer and much more comfy (http://www.canyoneeringusa.com go to the store and find wetsuits) this is what I've been using. My old O'neil surfer suit worked well too before it got trashed (took two years of lots of use before it finally died). Yes you should wear a wetsuit in Pine Creek, especially with a big group of newbies... and DON'T think a shortee is a wetsuit, because they are pretty much worthless. If Pine Creek happens to be tip top full, you will be freezing your butt off without a full suit on and will have no fun at all. It's not the swimming through the cold water, it's the getting wet and standing around while everyone rappels (newbies rappel really slow) shivering with no sunlight or any means to warm up. Trust me, wet Zion canyons with no wetsuit pretty much suck and are no fun. Every newbie I take through Pine Creek fights against me making them bring a suit (I won't let them come without one), and every one of them thanks me afterward for making them get one.

SLCmntjunkie · Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 62 Location: Sandy, UT

rather than poking holes in your pack you can get a grommet kit at walmart or somewhere for about $5 and make some decent drain holes.

I'd also suggest learning how to rig extra friction on your rappel device to prevent burning your hands rather than relying on gloves.

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

SLCmntjunkie wrote: rather than poking holes in your pack you can get a grommet kit at walmart or somewhere for about $5 and make some decent drain holes.

I'd also suggest learning how to rig extra friction on your rappel device to prevent burning your hands rather than relying on gloves.

I guess I am not a pro after all :lol8:

Thanks for those suggestions, both make sense :2thumbs:

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Las Vegas

Alex wrote: SLCmntjunkie wrote: rather than poking holes in your pack you can get a grommet kit at walmart or somewhere for about $5 and make some decent drain holes.

I'd also suggest learning how to rig extra friction on your rappel device to prevent burning your hands rather than relying on gloves.

I guess I am not a pro after all :lol8:

Thanks for those suggestions, both make sense :2thumbs:

You are getting there... you just don't like to do stuff like stick grommets in your pack. (me either, it's too much like sewing and crafting :lol8: ) I would rather buy one of Tom's and Shane usuaully sets your ropes. In Telephone where it was so cold, yucky and junk was all over the rope I would have liked gloves and I have never wore them before. My hands hurt a bit in there.

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

I find gloves work well for me. I am sure with experience I will lose gloves, and be like the cool pro boys, but meanwhile, I will be the noob and wear them with pride! :lol8: