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rcwild



Joined: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 96
Location: Cedar City Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject:  

I give up.

Have fun. Safety is optional.
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ratagonia



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 280
Location: Quiet and charming: Mount Carmel

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: $  

rcwild wrote:
I stand by my earlier comment that people are over-using guided rappels just because they seem cool.

There is nothing in Water Canyon that warrants a guided rappel. So it's done just to impress clients and to have more fun. That's sending the wrong message to those clients and to the canyoneering community at large.


Yup. Wouldn't want people to think canyoneering is FUN! :roflol:

Tom
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tanya



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 5159
Location: East side of Zion NP - Mt. Carmel Jct.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: I give up.

Have fun. Safety is optional.


Girls just wanna have fun :haha:

At least I am wearing a helmet now. :mrgreen:
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rcwild



Joined: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 96
Location: Cedar City Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject:  

ratagonia wrote: You can also take a class from ME (through Zion Adventure Company 435-772-0990) and get yourself properly trained. Available anytime. More fun if you get together a bunch of people.

You can choose to learn from me (30 years canyoneering, 18 years guiding and teaching) or from one of my students (just over 10 years canyoneering, less than one year guiding and teaching).
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Scott Card



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 1272
Location: Provo, Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject:  

Thump Thump Thump.... went the chests. Or you could learn from me and then teach me on our second trip. If we survive you will be treated to a dutch oven meal that will surpass any calorie expenditure from the day's hike. Then we will talk about our adventures and then we will re- hash the hike again and again on the way to the next canyons we do... Oh ya, I don't charge any thing and I only have two rules. Have fun and don't die. I don't want to be on the news.

Actually, chest thumping, egos, bad blood aside, I appreciate the comments from everyone. I tend to sift and mix and match for what fits me and then I ask a really talented feller to go with me. :haha:
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tanya



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 5159
Location: East side of Zion NP - Mt. Carmel Jct.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: ratagonia wrote: You can also take a class from ME (through Zion Adventure Company 435-772-0990) and get yourself properly trained. Available anytime. More fun if you get together a bunch of people.

You can choose to learn from me (30 years canyoneering, 18 years guiding and teaching) or from one of my students (just over 10 years canyoneering, less than one year guiding and teaching).

Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!
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Iceaxe



Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Posts: 7287
Location: Utahahaha

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject:  

tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

:roll:

Tom Jones was seen in Somalia taking bags of rice from starving children. Rich saw him do it.

Tom can be a little quirky at times.... but I know of no finer or more patient teacher.... I hear he even likes children, dogs and old people...

From Ice - (32 years of skirt chasing, 27 years of beer drinking, worlds greatest lover and occasional canyoneer)

:kicknuts:
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moab mark



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Posts: 43

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject:  

hey you could learn from me but I don't know *&$#$$#. B :2thumbs: ut i just purchased a brand new cordless hilti hammer drill and i am going to start putting in bolts everywhere i go. When you split the battery from the drill it's not to heavy and man is it mean. :2thumbs:
Mark
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rcwild



Joined: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 96
Location: Cedar City Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject:  

tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

Depends how high or low you set your standards.
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Felicia



Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 274
Location: So. CA

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

Depends how high or low you set your standards.

Rich, you are a mean and vindictive man. I recognize that it is your right to live your life the way you choose. But know that your behavior continues to reflect poorly on the ACA.

Who would want to learn anything from an organization that is run by a person like you?

It is always your way…..or the highway.

ps: I thought you “give up” a few posts back.
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nat



Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 66
Location: salt lake city

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: From Ice - (32 years of skirt chasing, 27 years of beer drinking, worlds greatest lover and occasional canyoneer)

:kicknuts:

Only 27 years of beer drinking? Sheesh... I've been drinking beer for 37 years, and I thought you were about my age (50). :haha:

Nat
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rcwild



Joined: 19 Aug 2007
Posts: 96
Location: Cedar City Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject:  

Felicia wrote: rcwild wrote: tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

Depends how high or low you set your standards.

Rich, you are a mean and vindictive man. I recognize that it is your right to live your life the way you choose. But know that your behavior continues to reflect poorly on the ACA.

Who would want to learn anything from an organization that is run by a person like you?

It is always your way…..or the highway.

ps: I thought you “give up” a few posts back.

You have a right to your opinion, but you are missing a lot of information.
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Scott Card



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 1272
Location: Provo, Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

Depends how high or low you set your standards. :nono: and :roll: and one more time :roll:
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skianddive



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 78
Location: Southern California

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: tanya wrote: Ouch! Tom Jones should hardly be considered a student!

Depends how high or low you set your standards.
And people wonder why I nicknamed him the Canyon Nazi.

Proof that reality really can mimic satire!

:nod:
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Bo_Beck



Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Posts: 631
Location: Southern Utah

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject:  

moab mark wrote: hey you could learn from me but I don't know *&$#$$#. B :2thumbs: ut i just purchased a brand new cordless hilti hammer drill and i am going to start putting in bolts everywhere i go. When you split the battery from the drill it's not to heavy and man is it mean. :2thumbs:
Mark

This wouldn't be you would it??? :ne_nau: :roflol:
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