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Scott P



Joined: 14 Dec 2005
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Bolts in Baptist Draw need to be pulled  

FYI:

My brother and I did Baptist Draw Friday evening. Beautiful canyon other than some trash left behind that we packed out and some graffiti.

Two bolts in Baptist need to be pulled and patched. They aren’t climbing bolts, but someone did a very poor job with Walmart type bolts. No hangars, just a couple of bolts and nuts/washer holding a chain. Anyway, the cheap washer was already severely bent and I yanked (fairly gently) on the chain and it popped the chain and washer right off since the nut was stripped with only a gentle tug. Scary and very poorly done. If someone did rap off it again he or she would have fallen! Anyway I packed out the nut, washer and one of the chains, but the other one is still there. Both “bolts” are loose, but I still couldn’t pull them out with my fingers.

I would recommend that a party go in there and pull the bolts and patch the holes whenever possible.
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Reedus



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject:  

Welcome back Scott. Missed ya here.
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rockgremlin



Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Location: Green River, Wy

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject:  

Welcome back Mr. P! Glad to have you back!

Are these bolts in that one section about half way through the Draw ~ about a 20 ft drop that could be downclimbed by some?

That wasn't the first time you did Baptist Draw was it? Did you exit out Upper Chute going upcanyon or downcanyon?
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Scott P



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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject:  

Quote: Are these bolts in that one section about half way through the Draw ~ about a 20 ft drop that could be downclimbed by some?

No, we too downclimbed that one, but the bolts are at the larger drop.

Quote: That wasn't the first time you did Baptist Draw was it?

Yes, it was my first to do the loop.

Quote: Did you exit out Upper Chute going upcanyon or downcanyon?

We went up canyon and did the loop. We didn’t start until late afternoon and didn’t bring a watch in the canyon, so we really hoofed it through fast (by my standards at least as I'm fairly slow compared to some). It took us 2 ½ hours; all non-stop except for at the top of the rap to harness up so we didn't spend too much time poking around or continuing to mess with the bolts. They should pull right out with a wrench, but we didn't have one.
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Brewhaha



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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject:  

Welcome Scott. Hope to see more of you.
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rockgremlin



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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject:  

Hey Scott - about several hundred yards upcanyon from the confluence of Baptist/Upper Chute is a notorious pothole that is a swimmer and is almost always covered over with a thick layer of STANKY organic debris. Was that nasty pothole still there or has it dried up some?
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Scott P



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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: Hey Scott - about several hundred yards upcanyon from the confluence of Baptist/Upper Chute is a notorious pothole that is a swimmer and is almost always covered over with a thick layer of STANKY organic debris. Was that nasty pothole still there or has it dried up some?

The canyon was bone dry without even a patch of wet sand.
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dandyj



Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Baptist draw.  

Last October I went through Baptist and noticed the bolts and chains. They looked pretty new when I was there in October. We went down to Baptist again the Sunday immediately following your descent. I noticed one of the chains was missing and would have pulled the other crap but didn't think about bringing any tools with me.

We went the opposite direction and went down Chute to the fault line exit there was only one wet spot that had water up to Mid-calf. The rest of the canyon was super dry.
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Scott P



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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: I noticed one of the chains was missing and would have pulled the other crap but didn't think about bringing any tools with me.

Yes, I just yanked on the chain and it came right off with not that hard of a tug. :eek2: I can't belive people were rapping off this or why they were doing so with such a solid chockstone to go off.
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rockgremlin



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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject:  

Scott P wrote: I can't belive people were rapping off this or why they were doing so with such a solid chockstone to go off.


Cause they can't tie a water knot? :ne_nau:
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