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Sombeech · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 11253 Location: The Rubbish Bin

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shlingdawg · Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 631 Location: Western Washington

Sorry for the size - but it is a big holiday!!!

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7628 Location: Local Bordello

The holiday which celebrates the victory of Mexican soldiers over the French in 1862.

I don't get this holiday.... is there anyone who has not defeated the French???

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

oldno7 · Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 490

I'm just gonna drink a couple Corona's and consider it celebrated :rockon:

Cirrus2000 · Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 1027 Location: Vancouver, BC

I'm passing on the Corona (well, maybe a Modelo later?) but I had fish tacos for lunch... :slobber:

Happy, happy Cinco de Mayo!

Rev. Coyote · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 1549 Location: Location Location

Iceaxe wrote: The holiday which celebrates the victory of Mexican soldiers over the French in 1862.

I don't get this holiday.... is there anyone who has not defeated the French???

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Let us not forget the French (under the leadership of Francois Joseph Paul Compte de Grasse) helped us deliver a fatal blow to the Brits with their naval forces in 1781 at the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay.

Cirrus2000 · Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 1027 Location: Vancouver, BC

The French, in fact, were pretty much essential to the success of the American Revolution. (Kind of a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".) But you can't expect appreciation to last for more than a couple of centuries, of course.

DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 3144 Location: Orem, Utah

Cirrus2000 wrote: The French, in fact, were pretty much essential to the success of the American Revolution. (Kind of a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".) But you can't expect appreciation to last for more than a couple of centuries, of course.

We have more than settled that debt. We have lost more of our lives for their cause than they have for ours.

I still don't know how France could fall so fast in WWII, and I enjoy a good French joke (like Shane's!) but I have a lot of respect for the French freedom fighters of WWII.

I don't have a problem with anybody who doesn't have a problem with me. I have been to France and people were perfectly nice to me, and for the most part every French person I have ever really known has been cool. I do not like the French who do not like Americans, but I also don't like Americans who do not like Americans.

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3824 Location: Hotel California

DiscGo wrote: We have more than settled that debt. We have lost more of our lives for their cause than they have for ours.

No way man....they sent us the statue of liberty as a gift. We're at least a few thousand lives away from merely breaking even for that one!

DiscGo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 3144 Location: Orem, Utah

rockgremlin wrote:

No way man....they sent us the statue of liberty as a gift. We're at least a few thousand lives away from merely breaking even for that one!

Jeez. That comment might even offend the French.

(BTW- Did you guys know that the maker of the Statue of Liberty wanted it to be sent to Asia, and the U.S. was his 2nd choice?)

BruteForce · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject:

Cinco de what?

Nope.. I'm passing on this one! :blahblah: :blahblah:

Cirrus2000 · Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 1027 Location: Vancouver, BC

DiscGo wrote: Cirrus2000 wrote: The French, in fact, were pretty much essential to the success of the American Revolution. (Kind of a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".) But you can't expect appreciation to last for more than a couple of centuries, of course.
We have more than settled that debt. We have lost more of our lives for their cause than they have for ours.

I was just kind of "Devil's Advocate"-ing there. And I really meant that you can't expect the US to still be beholden to France. (Though it perhaps sounded sarcastic.)

Further Devil's Advocacy: I don't know that you can balance one versus another, in lives lost for causes. It's a tough thing to do, though I agree that "that debt is paid". I'm just not sure that you can say "this did it" or "that did it". Remember that although, for example, WWII took place in places like France, Italy, etc. it wasn't just for the benefit of those people - to liberate them. There was also the threat that the Axis presented to the "Free World" - including to the US.

Anyhoo, there are good and bad people everywhere. Even in France. Even in the USA.

rockgremlin wrote: No way man....they sent us the statue of liberty as a gift. We're at least a few thousand lives away from merely breaking even for that one!

:roflol: :roflol:
I'd love to see the balance sheet - if you've got something in Excel, pass it along!

My bottom line: Cinco de Mayo is a great excuse to eat Mexican food - like I need one...

denaliguide · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 522 Location: new zealand/alaska

i know this is a cinco de mayo thread, but much has been said about the french.

go to google and search for "french military victories" and click I'm feeling lucky. good for a chuckle.

abirken · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1155 Location: Colorado

DiscGo wrote:

I don't have a problem with anybody who doesn't have a problem with me. I have been to France and people were perfectly nice to me, and for the most part every French person I have ever really known has been cool. I do not like the French who do not like Americans, but I also don't like Americans who do not like Americans.

DITTO!!! Agree with everything you say here. I was treated wonderfully in France as well. :2thumbs:

abirken · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1155 Location: Colorado

denaliguide wrote: i know this is a cinco de mayo thread, but much has been said about the french.

go to google and search for "french military victories" and click I'm feeling lucky. good for a chuckle.

Hey Denali!!! Any good hikes around your area? Since I'll be there this weekend? YAY for 90 degrees. :2thumbs: