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Iceaxe



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: Not true. Tibloc can still slip down the rope.

OK, let me re-phrase that.... the German Method greatly reduces the problem of rope slip.... and I'd still like to know why Petzl doesn't recommend the German Method more, I'm guessing there is a reason?

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ratagonia



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: rcwild wrote: Not true. Tibloc can still slip down the rope.

OK, let me re-phrase that.... the German Method greatly reduces the problem of rope slip.... and I'd still like to know why Petzl doesn't recommend the German Method more, I'm guessing there is a reason?

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Because.... wait for it... They are FRENCH!

If the German's figured it out, then the French would never admit it is a better technique.

Tom
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rcwild



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: rcwild wrote: Not true. Tibloc can still slip down the rope.

OK, let me re-phrase that.... the German Method greatly reduces the problem of rope slip.

Still not true. Get rid of the word "greatly" and replace it with "slightly".
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tanya



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: Iceaxe wrote: rcwild wrote: Not true. Tibloc can still slip down the rope.

OK, let me re-phrase that.... the German Method greatly reduces the problem of rope slip.

Still not true. Get rid of the word "greatly" and replace it with "slightly".


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RedRoxx



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject:  

I like my handled ascenders

http://storrick.cnchost.com/VerticalDevicesPage/AscenderDevices.shtml
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Iceaxe



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject:  

rcwild wrote: Still not true. Get rid of the word "greatly" and replace it with "slightly".

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Guess I'm just better at the German technique then you.....

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Iceaxe



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject:  

ratagonia wrote: Because.... wait for it... They are FRENCH!

Now that makes perfect sense. -Thanks.

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rcwild



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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: rcwild wrote: Still not true. Get rid of the word "greatly" and replace it with "slightly".

Guess I'm just better at the German technique then you...

Never said it was me who had a problem with them slipping.
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moab mark



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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject:  

Has anyone used a ropeman for a releasable anchor? Put the rope around tree, tie a butterfly in the rappel strand, carabine the ropeman to the butterfly and then run the other end through the ropeman. Tie a pull down 4mm cord to cable in ropeman. Pull pull down all comes down? Same sort of concept as Matt's slick. Just a thought.
Mark
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moab mark



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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject:  

Ok one other question. The ropeman I have is not the ropeman 2. I have never actually used it, in fact I forgot I had it till I saw these posts. The ropeman 1 seems to grip a 9mm rope solidly. But every post seems to say you need the ropeman 2 for this size rope. Including their website. So, yes or no on the ropeman 1? I know "it depends", but just for a 9 mm rope.
Mark
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Iceaxe



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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: That is a non-issue if you run the rope back through the biner.... I think Hank calls this "The German Method".

I was just cleaning out my files and found this picture for anyone wanting to understand the "German Method" of rigging a Tibloc....

Using this method eliminated my Tibloc rope slippage issues.... YMMV...

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ratagonia



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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject:  

Iceaxe wrote: Iceaxe wrote: That is a non-issue if you run the rope back through the biner.... I think Hank calls this "The German Method".

I was just cleaning out my files and found this picture for anyone wanting to understand the "German Method" of rigging a Tibloc....

Using this method eliminated my Tibloc rope slippage issues.... YMMV...

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C'est le methode francais you got going there, Ice.

T
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stefan



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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject:  

ratagonia wrote:

C'est le methode francais you got going there, Ice.



c'est la méthode francaise? merci, monsieur jones, pour la correction.
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hank moon



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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject:  

Pardon mssrs. Jones et al, mais je pense que vous n'avez pas etudié bien le photo!

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ratagonia



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject:  

hank moon wrote: Pardon mssrs. Jones et al, mais je pense que vous n'avez pas etudié bien le photo!

onk

Zut Alors!!! Vraiment, monsieur Luna Loco. Un photo nouveau:

Tom
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