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MY T PIMP



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Should Bill Maher recieve Imus treatment for Nazi comment?  

By Matthew Balan | April 14, 2008 - 12:28 ET

Bill Maher, true to form on his "Real Time" program on HBO on Friday, went on a tirade against Pope Benedict XVI and the Catholic Church, only days before the Pope’s visit to the U.S.. He stated that the Pope "used to be a Nazi" and compared him to a cult leader. He then went on to call the Church a "child-abusing religious cult" and "the Bear Stearns of organized pedophilia." "And that’s the Church’s attitude: 'We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it,' which is fine, far be it from me to criticize religion."

Following a profanity-tinged one-liner concerning the raid on the Texas compound of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Maher quipped, "In fact, whenever a cult leader sets himself up as God’s infallible wingman here on Earth, lock away the kids. Which is why I’d like to tip off law enforcement to an even larger child-abusing religious cult. Its leader also has a compound, and this guy not only operates outside the bounds of the law, but he used to be a Nazi and he wears funny hats. That’s right, the Pope is coming to America this week and ladies, he’s single!" At the "funny hat" line, Maher displayed a picture of Pope Benedict wearing a wide-brimmed hat called a saturno.

To see video try link

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/04/14/bill-maher-pope-used-be-nazi-compares-church-cult-bear-stearns

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Even though I am not Catholic and the comment is supposed to be comedic I think it crossed the line. And we all know if this were Hannity or Rush they would be front page news. :ne_nau:
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Sombeech



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject:  

We all know he won't get reprimanded for this.

With Imus (he came out LARGELY ahead in the end) what should have happened is you let capitalism take it's course. If he's an ass, then you let the audience decide and carry out their boycotts.

This is the same with Bill Mahr. Some people are yelling for the "fairness doctrine" but we should just let good old capitalism take it's course, and let the ratings fall on their own.

If HBO steps in and repremands him or whoever, he just becomes a martyr, and his ratings increase, just like Imus.
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Redpb



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject:  

Though a bit twisted, I do like his argument (excluding the nazi comment of course)
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Cirrus2000



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject:  

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

Thanks for the point-out. I always like a good comedy bit, but don't really watch TV.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject:  

Maher is great. He doesn't sugar coat anything and he tends to have very valid points, from what I've seen.

I don't have HBO and spend more time on the internet than television, but a friend of mine watches religiously and I end up catching an episode from time to time.

I kind of wish he was running for office, but I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.
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packfish



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject:  

Majer's not stupid but he can be a babbling idiot. There is intelligent humorous criticism and there's being a dum ass. He falls into the later.
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Rev. Coyote



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject:  

Coming from the Catholic-saturated East Coast, I believe Maher was right on target. Not only was the Pope a Hitler Youth (a Nazi), but his so-called "church" didn't offer shit in terms of comfort to the Jews during WWII. The silence of the Vatican was tantamount to complicity.

On the subject of pedophilia, the Catholic "church" has soft-pedaled the issue, opting to reassign child-molesting priests to other parishes if they only attacked one or two little boys. The "church" took no hard line on the issues, but moved to protect its perverted clergy. After that, the whole operation deserves nothing less that loud public ridicule for being the sick joke of global religious organizations.

(And this is all before looking at the church's history involving, oh, the Inquisition. And promoting overpopulation and the spread of AIDS in developing nations with the condoms=trip to Hell myth. Etc. Etc.) Oh, and every friend I had in Catholic schools around Richmond was at least once beaten by a penguin (nun). And those bitter old bitches can really dish out a whipping.

I liked this quote from Maher: "In fact, whenever a cult leader sets himself up as God’s infallible wingman here on Earth, lock away the kids." Couldn't be more true.

As far as the Mormons are concerned, it upsets me when a breakaway sect like Jeffs' followers in Texas is identified as being one in the same with the LDS. It is not. And there's the difference between the Mormon faith and the Catholic: The Vatican is at its very heart and soul a cult that quietly protects the practice of child rape. The LDS central church does not.

One more point -- There's a huge HUGE difference between pedophiles and polygamists. They are not the same. For the record, I have no problem with polygamy as long as everyone is an adult and there of their own free will. After all, this is America (last time I checked).
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denaliguide



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject:  

no.

bill says all types of comments that are offensive to some group of people everyday. insensitive? yes. shouold he lose his job for it? no. calling the pope a nazi, or preists pedophile homosexuals is no worse than is comment comparing retarded children with dogs.

one thing we have in this country that some other countries don't, is freedom of speech. just because some people are uncomfortable with what he said doesn't mean he can't say it.
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rockgremlin



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject:  

denaliguide wrote: one thing we have in this country that some other countries don't, is freedom of speech. just because some people are uncomfortable with what he said doesn't mean he can't say it.



Well, freedom of speech AS LONG AS you're not speaking ill of minority ethnic groups......right Imus?

In America, we enjoy freedom of speech, but we must also be willing to accept the consequences that result from that, which in some cases can be severe.

Its an interesting concept. If you openly and harshly slander a religion -- some people may get their feathers ruffled but overall, no big deal. On the other hand, if you even hint at a racist comment, you could get yourself killed.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject:  

Hey, you can talk about Christians, Crackers, and Conservatives all you want. But anybody else, you're up for some prosecution.
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RedMan



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject:  

I think Bills use of "Nazi" is simply inflammatory.

Being a member of the Hitler Youth did not make you a member of the Nazi party. There is no record of Ratzinger’s membership or any of his family.

Like any political party they kept very detailed records of membership and members were afforded many thing that non-members were not.

I looked into this in detail when he was named Pope. I think his family was simply trying to survive under a horrific regime. Neither fighting against it nor supporting it. Joining the Hitler Youth was compulsory though many refused to join.

I think his level of truthfulness on the topic was less than steller which have lead many to believe he has something to hide.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject:  

RedMan wrote: I think Bills use of "Nazi" is simply inflammatory.

Remember, most of the people who deny the Holocaust are Liberals, so you've gotta think: Why do they compare bad people to Nazis?
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject:  

Sombeech wrote: Hey, you can talk about Christians, Crackers, and Conservatives all you want. But anybody else, you're up for some prosecution.

Amen.
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RedMan



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject:  

Maher did it just because he knows calling the Pope a Nazi will get him a headline.
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stefan



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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject:  

Sombeech wrote: RedMan wrote: I think Bills use of "Nazi" is simply inflammatory.

Remember, most of the people who deny the Holocaust are Liberals


please expound on this comment, beech. whom are you referring to? or is this more of the 'beech blather that we pleasure of enjoying on this forum?
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