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Mudcat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Dark Canyon |
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| Anyone done Dark Canyon yet this year and have beta? Anything I should be concerned about going next week? Never done it before. Is 60 cfs likely to be a problem with the East Fork exit? (I do see the escape route at the Parunuweap/EFVR junction from Shane's site.) |
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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Dark Canyon :ne_nau:
You mean Rock Canyon?
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trackrunner
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Iceaxe wrote: Dark Canyon :ne_nau:
You mean Rock Canyon?
:popcorn: QFE please provide beta on this mystery Dark Canyon so I can hit it :hitit: |
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oldno7
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a little confused--Isn't EFVR the same as Parunaweap? Other than ones water and ones a canyon?
Lots a stuff out there is dark.(well not lots)
More info please :ne_nau: |
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Jaxx
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I stumbled upon this while searching for something else.
http://bogley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6609&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=camping+zion |
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trackrunner
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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oldno7 wrote: I'm a little confused--Isn't EFVR the same as Parunaweap? Other than ones water and ones a canyon?
Lots a stuff out there is dark.(well not lots)
More info please :ne_nau:
Yes EFVR is Parunaweap but Parunaweap is closed through the park. Now my turn to ask a question. Is it closed at the park boundry or at Labyrinth Falls? Because I've heard both. :ne_nau: |
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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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trackrunner wrote: Is it closed at the park boundry or at Labyrinth Falls? Because I've heard both. :ne_nau:
Officially it's closed at the Park Boundary....
Unofficially it's closed at the Falls.
Which means you can visit the falls from the top and probably never have a problem....
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trackrunner
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Iceaxe wrote: trackrunner wrote: Is it closed at the park boundry or at Labyrinth Falls? Because I've heard both. :ne_nau:
Officially it's closed at the Park Boundary....
Unofficially it's closed at the Falls.
Which means you can visit the falls from the top and probably never have a problem....
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Thanks. I'll just say I missed the exit out and am now back tracking to the exit. :nod: |
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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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There is a Dark Canyon and it's really an awesome canyon. The problem is that Dark Canyon (the same one mentioned in the thread) is located where the Colorado empties into Lake Powell and is no where near Zion.
We used to access with our boats and hike up Dark Canyon from the lake, but no way in hell you could get a boat near there right now. |
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Mudcat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Rock, not Dark |
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| Uh, check that on DARK Canyon, which is very pleasant this time of year. But I meant to say ROCK canyon. I wish I could fire my editor. |
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Mudcat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: And Another Thing |
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And yes, that's the EFVR/Rock Canyon junction. Sorry for the confusion. So, now that we've got that cleared up, and I've supplied enough evidence to convict me of terminal idiocy, sounds like Rock will probably be OK?
And yeah, totally agree on Dark Canyon. Beautiful place, nice pools, but the talus hike in/out on the Sundance Trail is pretty brutal. But that's another subject ... er, canyon. |
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Iceaxe
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure what gauge you are using.... but a true 60cfs through Parunuweap should not be a problem. I think you could pretty much do the canyon at double that but haven't tried. The only real danger in Parunuweap is a constriction that sometimes becomes a strainer. The constriction/strainer is located below French Canyon and above Misery. Parunuweap doesn't really start to get tight until you hit the confluence with Misery.
Photo of constriction that sometimes becomes a strainer.
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marc olivares
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| watch for the ichy plant life going out French... |
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nelsonccc
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Dark Canyon |
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Mudcat wrote: Anyone done Dark Canyon yet this year and have beta? Anything I should be concerned about going next week? Never done it before. Is 60 cfs likely to be a problem with the East Fork exit? (I do see the escape route at the Parunuweap/EFVR junction from Shane's site.)
Make sure you've got 4WD. We did it last year in late May and it was pretty balls to the wall. Lots of sections where you'd go in at 40 mph and exit at 5 mph. Scraped up the sides of my ford f150 in a couple of tight spots.
I also echo the sentiment to watch out for poisen ivy in french. There's a ton of it. |
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Mudcat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Using USGS for EFVR (http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ut/nwis/uv?09404900) which shows flows hovering around 61 for the past week. I'm assuming neo isn't necessary, except maybe on the feet. If I'm wrong, someone please let me know.
Thanks for the warning on the poison ivy. I hate that stuff! |
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