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nelsonccc · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 285 Location: Vegas Baby

Kyrell wrote: I'm a little late to this party but I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and plan on going down...especially if Christian is going to be there! It'd be great if we could get a small group together and do Heaps. High on my list to hit this year.

Look at all the love I'm getting. Luckily theres enough of me to go around.

With me, Jason, Alex, Mike, Shane, and Justin you know there's going to be a good time somewhere.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7792 Location: Local Bordello

nelsonccc wrote: you know there's going to be a good time somewhere.

It's all fun and games until Shane ends up in handcuffs.... isn't that right LJ? :ne_nau:

:lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

Man, everyone is coming out of the woods, my vote goes to expand the people limit and split the noobfest trips into two or what not. Then get together at night for some bsing. I'd hate to turn folks away, especially the ones who have showed up to the events in the past and are reliable.

Odie_Canyon · Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Hurricane, UT

nelsonccc wrote: I already signed you up last week for your permit getting abilities. Check the earlier posts. Not sure why your name is shared with Price. I even had you down as one of the helpers on page 14 before it got split.

Is Price - Jason intended to be "Nelson's Buddy" If so, remove Odie from the waiting list, and if not... :frustrated:

nelsonccc · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 285 Location: Vegas Baby

Alex wrote: Man, everyone is coming out of the woods, my vote goes to expand the people limit and split the noobfest trips into two or what not. Then get together at night for some bsing. I'd hate to turn folks away, especially the ones who have showed up to the events in the past and are reliable.

What about setting it up like a TomFest? Each 'leader' can pick a canyon, arrange for permits, then allow others to join up. That way we can accomodate the needs of 20-30 people. Especially 'cause you know there will be a buttload of people that want to do Pine, Keyhole, and Misery, but there will also be a lot of that have done those and want something different? I think hauling 24 people through Birch or Misery will be tough, hell even taking 12 through those canyons at a time will be hard. My thoughts on the matter.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7792 Location: Local Bordello

If anyone wants to expand the noob fest then step up and start organizing part of it. Tanya has done a good job of getting things rolling so far. I've said I would help out but I'm not in charge of this deal.... hell, I haven't even told my wife I'm going yet.... :haha:

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 4051 Location: Hotel California

Alex wrote: Man, everyone is coming out of the woods, my vote goes to expand the people limit and split the noobfest trips into two or what not. Then get together at night for some bsing. I'd hate to turn folks away, especially the ones who have showed up to the events in the past and are reliable.

This is quickly going the way of a "Tom's Fest." Which is not a bad thing. The way Tom manages his fests are just a common campspot/meeting area. The canyon trips are managed by those who are willing to lead, and those who sign up to those specific canyons. The experience level for each canyon is stated beforehand so that noobs know not to sign on to the experienced trips. I don't see a problem with mixing in a few experienced canyons as long as the experience level is stated before-hand, and there is enough leadership to go around.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7792 Location: Local Bordello

rockgremlin wrote: This is quickly going the way of a "Tom's Fest." Which is not a bad thing.

Big Difference.... at a Tom Fest everyone is expected to have basic skills down.... we have folks coming with little or no skills....

And that's it for me.... I'm stepping out of this thread.... you guys let me know what you have worked out when your finished organizing. I'm good with whatever you guys work out.

:drums:

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2552 Location: SLC, UT

Iceaxe wrote:
Big Difference.... at a Tom Fest everyone is expected to have basic skills down.... we have folks coming with little or no skills....

And that's it for me.... I'm stepping out of this thread.... you guys let me know what you have worked out when your finished organizing. I'm good with whatever you guys work out.

:drums:

Sorry, didn't mean to stir things up. Shane, the trips I have been on that you organized always worked out really well. So, I'll just shut up and sit in the pick up line.

:popcorn:

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 4051 Location: Hotel California

Can we make this thread any more dramatic please?

This isn't too difficult a thing to work out. The proposed canyons up to this point were:

Non Permitted Canyons:

1. Birch
2. Red Cave
3. Yankee Doodle
4. Misery

Permitted Canyons:

1. Pine Creek
2. Subway

Up to this point we're fine. A few have proposed to do some canyons that are not noob friendly, which is fine in my opinion as long as someone is willing to step up to the plate and "lead" that canyon -- AND that everyone in this fest is well aware that it isn't a canyon for noobs.

That said, those who want to do more technical canyons -- Step up, and throw down your name as a leader. Limit the group size, and only accept sign-ons that are competent.

Personally, I would like to do something a little more technical one day. I could lead one day, and the other do something a little more meaty.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7792 Location: Local Bordello

I didn't mean to make this dramatic... I'm just telling you guys the same thing I have said all along.... I'm not organizing this trip! It's up to you guys to get it done. I'll help where I can. I'll advise when asked.

Tanya has done a nice job of organizing a list of who is coming.

Several folks were working on getting permits and trips together for everyone. If you want to step up and put a trip together please do so.... but understand you are expected to take noobs on your trip and not strip the group of talent (which a Heaps type of trip would do).

You guys still need someone to step up and handle camping arrangements....

And when I said I was stepping out of the thread that just meant I was giving you guys some room to work.... so go for it....

:rockon:

Kyrell · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Salt Lake City

Iceaxe wrote:

Don't make me stop this noob-fest and come back there and smack you... :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

:five:

I know Heaps is NOT suitable for noobs. :lol8: I'm just suggesting that if there happens to be enough leadership to go around, then it might be possible to swing a run down Heaps or something of that calibre with a smaller, experienced crew. Just a thought. :2thumbs:

Randi · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 501 Location: The OC

Kyrell wrote: Iceaxe wrote:

Don't make me stop this noob-fest and come back there and smack you... :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

:five:

I know Heaps is NOT suitable for noobs. :lol8: I'm just suggesting that if there happens to be enough leadership to go around, then it might be possible to swing a run down Heaps or something of that calibre with a smaller, experienced crew. Just a thought. :2thumbs:

I think it would be "OK" too, to have folks doing Big canyons and small canyons at noobfest, as long as noobs have some experienced people to go down suitable canyons with.

I'll stick with the noobs, but I would want another experienced person with me. I'm mainly coming to meet you all and hang out at camp. I'd actually rather do easy/short canyons on this trip so I can maximize the hang out time.

So if anyone wants to lead a canyon, and put me down as helper - I'm "in".

I'd rather NOT become part of the organization team either. You don't want me organizing anything! :nono:

My organizational skills are nearly as bad as my navigational skills.

PS: I'll take a short request list if anyone wants anything from Trader Joes! Payment upon reciept will be required! :mrgreen:

UtahAdventureGuide · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 24

I've got a Subway permit for 8 people on the 7th. I applied for the lotter 3 months ago and just happened to get awarded the permit during the n00b fest. I'll probably have a couple spots open, i'll know more the closer we get.

Randi · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 501 Location: The OC

UtahAdventureGuide wrote: I've got a Subway permit for 8 people on the 7th. I applied for the lotter 3 months ago and just happened to get awarded the permit during the n00b fest. I'll probably have a couple spots open, i'll know more the closer we get.

I haven't done the subway and would like to, so if you need a helper ~ here I am! Keep me in mind?
:mrgreen: Would you be looking at doing Das Boot as well?