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goofball · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: stone donkey beta ?

anyone have solid beta for stone donkey along hackberry canyon in paria country ? PARTICULARLY approach.

thx !

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5479 Location: Utah

Not me.. but this canyon is on my hit list too!

trackrunner · Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 663

This book, thats about all

maybe scott patterson will chime in since he wrote the update at the link :ne_nau:
http://www.canyoneering.com/books/Update_view.html?book=38&canyon=1104&view=update

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5479 Location: Utah

Yeah.. Scott knows all! I belive Stefan knows this one. He is the one that posted it was a good one.. that's why its on my hit list.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7628 Location: Local Bordello

Yeah.... this is one of Scott P's favorites..... which means..... it has either a brutal approach or brutal egress..... if Scott really likes it then it probably has both.

I've never done the canyon, below is the beta I have in addition to MK's book. The beta below is pretty old (2001?) so take it for what it's worth. I never did check MK's beta to see if the entrance and exits match.

Stone Donkey is a BLM name of a side canyon of Hackberry Canyon which is located between Bryce Canyon and Paria River. It is south of the "Cottonwood" benchmark and the first canyon north of Sam Pollock Canyon. The quickest access to this slot is right off Rock Springs Point; the easiest access is a longer route from the mouth of Hackberry Canyon. Do this short and sweet canyon! It is one foot wide and 400 feet deep at one point. Take a flashlight just in case. The initial drop is 200 feet, but after this there are only short drops.

:cool2:

stefan · Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 3836 Location: somewhere

tanya wrote: Yeah.. Scott knows all! I belive Stefan knows this one. He is the one that posted it was a good one.. that's why its on my hit list.

i haven't done the canyon yet.

scott has done the canyon. while scenic, he says there is about 18 miles of slogging.

there, of course, is a shorter route from hackberry that avoids the long approach and just gets you the slot and lower canyon.

goofball · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:

thanks y'all !

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7628 Location: Local Bordello

Don't forget your TR when you return. :bootyshake:

RedRoxx · Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Tucson Az

I've climbed up a little of it from the bottom, it got tight and dark :mrgreen: right away, almost needed a headlamp. I was backpacking thru so not equipped to go at it from above.
From lower Hackberry hiking is easy and fast, but I think if you go in from the upper half should be shorter.

goofball · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject:

stefan wrote: i haven't done the canyon yet.

scott has done the canyon. while scenic, he says there is about 18 miles of slogging.

there, of course, is a shorter route from hackberry that avoids the long approach and just gets you the slot and lower canyon.

i thought hackberry WAS the long approach ? kelsey said from its mouth up is a 1.5 day affair fro stone donkey. from the rock springs point th he says 9-13 hrs. is there an approach from teh cottonwood road ? i was looking at google earth and stone donkey's mouth is quite close to the cottonwood wash road, but it looked dubious as to getting in and out of hackberry on that east side rim.

iceaxe wrote: Don't forget your TR when you return. Booty Shake

i like to share ! if i enjoy it i figure others who love the outdoors as well will enjoy it too. and why would i not want someone to have as cool a time as i did ?

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7628 Location: Local Bordello

goofball wrote: if i enjoy it i figure others who love the outdoors as well will enjoy it too. and why would i not want someone to have as cool a time as i did ?

Awesome attitude.

:2thumbs:

stefan · Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 3836 Location: somewhere

goofball wrote:
i thought hackberry WAS the long approach ? kelsey said from its mouth up is a 1.5 day affair fro stone donkey. from the rock springs point th he says 9-13 hrs. is there an approach from teh cottonwood road ?

was a bit unclear. my thinking was ... i know you enjoy backpacking and i figured you'd enjoy exploring hackberry and this would be a shorter day trip on your longer hike. rather than a long approach just for the slot. not sure about a shorter more direct approach from cottonwood canyon road. pretty deep canyon, would have to look.

goofball · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject:

stefan wrote: goofball wrote:
i thought hackberry WAS the long approach ? kelsey said from its mouth up is a 1.5 day affair fro stone donkey. from the rock springs point th he says 9-13 hrs. is there an approach from teh cottonwood road ?

was a bit unclear. my thinking was ... i know you enjoy backpacking and i figured you'd enjoy exploring hackberry and this would be a shorter day trip on your longer hike. rather than a long approach just for the slot. not sure about a shorter more direct approach from cottonwood canyon road. pretty deep canyon, would have to look.

no problem, and i ceertainly appreciate the input. i definitley like to bp, and hackberry sure looks pretty. loved the booker/rvd loop, made me want to spend more time wandereing aimlessly... this is just a weekender though. day the first is deer creek canyon. and we want to be back at an earlier time sunday, so stone donkey may be saved for later. maybe we'll drag camping gear thru deer creek and play in asay and red slot and the upper paria on sunday. either way is win win ! or maybe we'll change the plan totally - par for the course. my ocd has gave way to add.

trackrunner · Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 663

Bump
Scott Patterson posted his summitpost in the yahoo groups. Thought it would help in the discussion here for goofball.
http://www.summitpost.org/album/399530/stone-donkey-canyon.html

I love the cathedral rappel pic :nod:

goofball · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject:

niiiice !

thanks for the link trackrunner. friends had just got back from round valley draw and willis creek teh weekend before this and had pics of FEET of snow and ice in both, so we scrapped plans to do deer creek or stone donkey this same weekend just in case. crap. oh well, its not going anywhere !