Bogley

[Iceaxe]

ratagonia wrote: How quickly he forgets (the men, of course). :ne_nau:

I'm sorry Tom.... I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone.

Tom Talboys, Tom Jones and Jeff Meierhofer were all on the Posion Springs trip.


And Please feel free to correct any other errors.... I'm sure there are many errors in the info I've posted above. This is all from memory of things that happened over the past 10 years.

I was hoping Mr. Jones would add his knowledge of names to the thread. Tom or his group were responsible for naming Blarney, Shenanigan's, Not Mind Bender... and a bunch of other routes.

:hail2thechief:

A lot of times I know which group named the route... but not who or why.

I'd like to also hear from Deserthiker... particularly in regards to Pandora's Box, which is a fantastic name for the route that wears it.

Edit: also need to add Gilles and Julie Wallace's names to this list.


:cool2:

[Iceaxe]

Swaseys Leap - Lower Black Box - San Rafael Swell

Local Legend: Swaseys Leap, shown on USGS maps as Swazys Leap, is named after Sid Swasey. Local legend has it that Sid bet his brother Joe that he could jump the gap on his saddle horse. According to the legend, Sid made the jump and won a herd of sheep from his brother. Several years later, Sheepherder Paul Hanson built a log bridge across Swaseys Leap for the purpose of getting his sheep across the flooded river. The log bridge fell into the river in 1997.

[Iceaxe]

Zero-G

One other slight I noticed after reading back over the thread...

Sam and Devon Gregory were part of the trip that named Zero-G. The naming was a group thing.

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[accadacca]

Fantastic read here. I hope we can get more parties going. :five:

[ratagonia]

Iceaxe wrote:
I was hoping Mr. Jones would add his knowledge of names to the thread. Tom or his group were responsible for naming Blarney, Shenanigan's, Not Mind Bender... and a bunch of other routes.


Not Mindbender = I thought we had found Mind Bender, and held that belief for six months. But then I read the description (and maybe Kelsey's book came out) and realized - NOT!

Blarney - Shane and Hank had discovered and explored Leprechaun and (most of) Sandthrax, and Shane had spun me some yarns about fantastic canyons in the area with ruins and waterfalls and beautiful pools - which I bought hook line and sinker. So Alicia and I named Blarney in appreciation of Shane's gifts of the tongue, and to keep with the Leprechaun Irish theme.

Shenanigans - I don't remember the moment when the name came about, but it is one of my favorite names. To honor the Shenanigans involved in the first (of ours) descent. And keeping with the Irish theme.

Tom

[Iceaxe]

Eye of the Needle

This is my biggest regret in canyon names. I wish I had of just called the slot "South Fork of Oak Creek". Lots of reasons for the stupid name, and I do think it's a stupid name. This was named back in the days when I was still trying to make everyone happy about what was getting betaed. At the time the canyon had about half a dozen silly names among different groups who were all trying to hide the canyon from each other.... so what did I do? I gave it anther silly name. :roll:

Anyhoo... since the naming of this canyon I've learned a few important things....

1. With the internet, the life of a secret canyon is measured in dog years....

2. The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead...

And probably the most important item....

3. The first person to publicly beta the canyon get's to set the ethics, style and name for the route. Now I don't exactly agree with this last item, but it is a fact. The first time a route shows up in a guidebook or reliable website is like carving the ethics, style and name into stone.

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[ratagonia]

Iceaxe wrote:
A lot of times I know which group named the route... but not who or why.

I'd like to also hear from Deserthiker... particularly in regards to Pandora's Box, which is a fantastic name for the route that wears it.

:cool2:

And there's no reason to think there is only one version of each story...

Tom

[stefan]

Iceaxe wrote:
... this is stuff that should be recorded for historical reason.

yes it should. i have been working on a database of this stuff and will be sharing it down the road
when it's a little more complete.


Iceaxe wrote: Boss Hogg

This canyon was named by Dave Black, Charley ?? and Jim ??

Dave Black and Jim Wright named the canyon and, i believe, the original spelling was Boss Hawg
as you can see from the original post (feb 03) on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK)


Music Canyon was named by Lloyd Bush, Henry Haurand, Kent Johnson, and Laurie Ness.
here's Lloyd Bush's original post (nov 02) on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK)

Lloyd Bush on Canyons(excerpt) wrote: Two weeks later we came back with two other friends (Kent Johnson and Laurie Ness) to do the whole canyon. I had located what I thought was the canyon on the topo and we started from the top. It turned out to be every bit as good as we had hoped. When we got to the bottom, we turned around and went back up. At one point, there is a dark cavern with remarkable acoustics, and Laurie, who has a beautiful voice began to sing. This led to a discussion as to what to name the canyon. We narrowed it down to "Music" or "Melody", and Music finally won out.

[stefan]

as Tom Jones mentioned, he named Shenanigans, but he also named the other forks of west butler Foolin' Around and Monkey Business.


Reports of these trips:

Shenanigans (Link to Tom's Original story) which has been reprinted together with a follow up TR of the return to the canyon (originally posted on the Canyons Yahoo Group) on the following LINK to Canyon Tales. And of course there is Ram's report of the events which was originally posted on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK) and has been reprinted at the following LINK to Canyon Tales

Foolin' Around first posted in a TR by Tom Jones on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK) and has been reprinted at the following LINK to Canyon Tales

Monkey Business first posted in a TR by Ram on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK) and has been reprinted at the following LINK to Canyon Tales


Shillelagh was named by Barb Pollyea and Shane Burrows.


Icebox Canyon -- here is an old post of Scott Patterson's from the (now defunct) Canyoneer Yahoo Group regarding this canyon. (LINK)

Scott Patterson wrote: Icebox was known as Waterfalls, and I don't know which name came first. Here's the story: I led the WMC trip through the canyon several years ago. In researching the area, we had the NPS search by phone all the previous "Black Book" entries. One very old one, said that there was a route to the rim from Lee Pass and it said you could look down into the "Eye Slots", or at least that's what I heard. When we did the canyon, it was partially filled with snow and the water was very cold (41 degrees to be exact). After the swim, Janet Curry asked "Scott are you sure that the ranger said Eye Slots; it should be Icebox", or something to that effect. Later, Stu Addler wrote or trip up in the Black Book as Icebox Canyon. Still later, we learned that the name Waterfalls Canyon has already been tagged to the canyon. We tried to find the old enrty that was read over the phone to find out if it was Icebox or Eye Slots, but after that it was lost. None of the rangers could find it after that. Strange, I know. So, the question still remains, is the canyon Eye Slots, Icebox, or waterfalls Canyon?

others to follow

[Iceaxe]

stefan wrote: Dave Black and Jim Wright named the canyon and, i believe, the original spelling was Boss Hawg
as you can see from the original post (feb 03) on the Canyons Yahoo Group (LINK)


FWIW: The orginal TR's from both Jim Wright and Charlie listed the name and spelling as "Boss Hog" Dave Black apparently spelled it Boss Hawg?

I've seen the canyons listed as:

Boss Hog
Boss Hogg
Boss Hawg

The canyon was first publicly betaed under the name and spelling Boss Hog
http://climb-utah.com/Powell/bosshog.htm

No skin of my nose either way.... just though you would be interested. Now might be a good time for everyone to agree on a spelling.... or not....

:popcorn:

[Iceaxe]

Yankee Doodle

This bad boy belongs to Dick Shear. If you look at a USGS 7.5" Topo the drainage above the road is labeled Yankee Doodle Hollow, which I'm sure is where the name came from.

:popcorn:

[Iceaxe]

Monoxide
http://climb-utah.com/Powell/monoxide.htm

I think it was Mr. Jones who coined the name in keeping with the posion tradition.... but the folllowing people were on the trip so it could have been any/all or a combination who named the route....

Tom and Sharon Talboys, Jeff and Barb Meierhofer, Tom Jones, Gilles Wallace and Shane Burrows

[ratagonia]

Iceaxe wrote: Monoxide
http://climb-utah.com/Powell/monoxide.htm

I think it was Mr. Jones who coined the name in keeping with the poison tradition.... but the folllowing people were on the trip so it could have been any/all or a combination who named the route....

Tom and Sharon Talboys, Jeff and Barb Meierhofer, Tom Jones, Gilles Wallace and Shane Burrows


As I remember, we called it Monoxide because it had exactly ONE good feature...

Tom

[Iceaxe]

Lucky Charms

Hank Moon came up with that name in keeping with the area's Irish theme. Hank and I had spent the afternoon scrambling around the sandstone cliff's and I though the route was a fun divergence to add to climb-Utah.

[Iceaxe]

Big Horn
http://climb-utah.com/Moab/bighorn.htm

This was a know brainer when it came to naming. A group of us were playing around in Moab and did the route. Big Horn has this really cool little hanging garden in the middle of a huge sandstone wall. A skilled climber or big horn sheep can actual climb to an overhanging ledge just above the hanging garden. The problem is if you jump into the hanging garden from the ledge you are not getting out unless you use ropes. This became obvious to us when we discover the horns of a Big Horn Sheep who had become trapped in the hanging garden/prison and perished.

The orgianal Big Horn group consisted of:
Jason Price, March Schnupp, Justin Eatchell, Alex Korkishko, Shane Burrows