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tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5712 Location: Ivins, UT

Sounds like he got stuck in the skinny section after the rappel rather than on the rappel?

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

Man rescued after spending night on narrow ledge
Deseret Morning news

GARFIELD COUNTY — A Colorado man was rescued Monday morning after spending the night trapped in a narrow slot canyon.
Rob Lougee, 42, of Brighton, Colo., was rappelling in the Three Forks area with his wife and two other people when he got stuck in a canyon that tapered off to about 16 inches wide.

According to a statement from the Garfield County Sheriff's Office, Lougee could not rappel down any farther and did not have the equipment to climb back out of the canyon. The man found a ledge and spent the night there while his wife went for help.

Around 7:45 a.m. Monday, the Garfield County Search and Rescue team anchored a rope to a helicopter, rappelled into the canyon and pulled Lougee out safely.

The man was slightly dehydrated after spending a night in freezing temperatures, but was otherwise fine, according to the sheriff's office.

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695264615,00.html

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

I'm still not getting it.... a couple of pretty big boys have done that slot.

:ne_nau:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

Dang.... I went back to the Denverpost to see if they had anymore pictures I could hot link.... anyhoo.... I didn't find any more pictures but I started reading some of the reader comments below the article....

Some of the comments are PRICELESS.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8693479

I'm not a climber, myself, but it seems odd to me to rappel down first, without any means to ascend your rope. Any climbers out there care to comment on this?

Curtis in Broomfield

Not a climber. At best a canyoneer in the act of rapelling. The press needs to learn that every idiot with a rope is not a climber. Inevitably articles like this that reflects poorly on climbers. He's called a climber in the headline, yet nothing he was doing would be construed as climbing. Hey Kirk Mitchell, why don't you google 'rock climbing' and see if you can get a clue there before you put 'climbing' in the headline. He was rapelling. You climb UP.

M B

Climber?
Actually, he would be a decender, right?
A decender and then a stopper. Then a yeller for a helper, then a waiter for a rescuer.
But a climber.. no.
Now i bet hes gonna be a reader...

bd

:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

I'm pretty sure the last comment above came from a member of this forum..... :lol8:

There are more comments at the DP. See the link above.

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tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5712 Location: Ivins, UT

"he could not rappel down any farther and did not have the equipment to climb back out of the canyon. The man found a ledge and spent the night there while his wife went for help"

Is it possible he did not have enough rope to do the whole rappel? It was really odd shaped.. not really a shelf there to spend the night on?

There was only one in that whole canyon wasn't there? I am assuming the wife was above and had not rappelled yet?

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

Wrong rappel Tanya, this happened in the Middle Fork. My groups have never rappeled the second drop in Middle Fork, we always just partner assist down. The entire Middle Fork has been up climbed by only moderately skilled canyoneers. I'm still not seeing why they had a major problem.

If someone has a picture of this second rappel/drop please post it. It's been a while since I've done that fork and my mind is a little cloudy.

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rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3914 Location: Hotel California

oldno7 wrote: This is all Rams fault----

ran into 2 couples at the intersection of Slideanide/Constrychnine, my 2 buddies are from Colo. So the guy says that Ram is bringing to many people to these canyons and they don't think much of Ram. (my buddies have never met Ram nor have I)They are from SLC, (the arrogant prick group)I think I know who they are. Also saw my camoflauge pack and asked if I carried a gun in canyons,WTF The guy was an arrogant prick!! I was on my best behavior and left him to canyon another day :twisted:

Just out of curiosity, how is "this all RAM's fault?" :ne_nau:

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5712 Location: Ivins, UT

rockgremlin wrote: oldno7 wrote: This is all Rams fault----

ran into 2 couples at the intersection of Slideanide/Constrychnine, my 2 buddies are from Colo. So the guy says that Ram is bringing to many people to these canyons and they don't think much of Ram. (my buddies have never met Ram nor have I)They are from SLC, (the arrogant prick group)I think I know who they are. Also saw my camoflauge pack and asked if I carried a gun in canyons,WTF The guy was an arrogant prick!! I was on my best behavior and left him to canyon another day :twisted:

Just out of curiosity, how is "this all RAM's fault?" :ne_nau:

I took that as an affectionate joke

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

rockgremlin wrote: Just out of curiosity, how is "this all RAM's fault?" :ne_nau:

Well heck.... it has to be someone's fault.... maybe it's just Ram's turn in the barrel. :roflol:

No such thing as accepting personal responsibility.

:ne_nau:

oldno7 · Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 585

rockgremlin wrote: oldno7 wrote: This is all Rams fault----

ran into 2 couples at the intersection of Slideanide/Constrychnine, my 2 buddies are from Colo. So the guy says that Ram is bringing to many people to these canyons and they don't think much of Ram. (my buddies have never met Ram nor have I)They are from SLC, (the arrogant prick group)I think I know who they are. Also saw my camoflauge pack and asked if I carried a gun in canyons,WTF The guy was an arrogant prick!! I was on my best behavior and left him to canyon another day :twisted:

Just out of curiosity, how is "this all RAM's fault?" :ne_nau:

The couple that I met at the bottom of Constrychnine/Slideanide were the ones saying Ram was showing all the people from Colo. these canyons. "They expressed their displeasure with Ram, not me.
So yea, Tanya has it figured. :rockon:
And I stand behind everything I said about the SLC couple and I do know who they are(arrogant prick) That was my first dealing with him.
There were 5 of us (3 in our group, 2 camped across from us) that were at the bottom, I believe all felt somewhat or totally offended by said prick!
But I'm done with this, too many good folks to worry about a few bad, at least I'll know how to act if I ever run into this guy again.

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2467 Location: SLC, UT

Is this said person on bogley forums? :ne_nau:

rockgremlin · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3914 Location: Hotel California

Alex wrote: Is this said person on bogley forums? :ne_nau:

Probably Kelsey...he's pissed because RAM refuses to publish all of his great slot canyon finds. :haha:

AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 219 Location: Boulder, CO

I don't get it either. It's not because of rope, as the wife made it down and out to call for help.

Iceaxe wrote: Wrong rappel Tanya, this happened in the Middle Fork. My groups have never rappeled the second drop in Middle Fork, we always just partner assist down. The entire Middle Fork has been up climbed by only moderately skilled canyoneers. I'm still not seeing why they had a major problem.

If someone has a picture of this second rappel/drop please post it. It's been a while since I've done that fork and my mind is a little cloudy.

:cool2:

The report says goes down to 16 inches. Is that middle fork Shane? I thought middle went down tighter than that. I was thinking it was one of the other forks, which was even more confusing. I'm guessing it was just a rather big fellow; who didn't know how to stem and therefore didn't belong in there. If it's middle, I can see that a little more; but yeah, I agree that many big folk should be able to make it through there fine...

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7755 Location: Local Bordello

Yeah, it was middle fork.

If the news info is correct the guy who got stuck is in the white helmet in the picture. From the picture I'd say he should have had few problems. I've seen much bigger guys make it through with a little sweating and grunting.

trackrunner · Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 821

There are some good comments over on the Yahoo group Canyons page about this.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/