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Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Local Bordello

But yeah.... It's nice when the threads turn back to to thread title....

....so in the spirit of everyone having a nice day....

My favorite canyon is Zion is Pinecreek.

Easy in, easy out, no riff-raff, some of the best scenery to be found in any slot canyon. Come on.... is there a better section of slot in the entire world then the Cathedral rappel? Only down side is the Harley's in the tunnel.... but I can live with that since I can make lunch at Oscar's, do a second canyon in the afternoon and still make happy hour at the Pizza Noodle.

:2thumbs:

My favorite "manly chest thumping" canyon in Zion is Imlay, Heaps is nice but the final rappel sucks, Kolob is over-rated.

:five:

trackrunner · Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 1095

Iceaxe wrote: But yeah.... It's nice when the threads turn back to to thread title....

....so in the spirit of everyone having a nice day....

My favorite canyon is Zion is Pinecreek.

Easy in, easy out, no riff-raff, some of the best scenery to be found in any slot canyon. Come on.... is there a better section of slot in the entire world then the Cathedral rappel? Only down side is the Harley's in the tunnel.... but I can live with that since I can make lunch at Oscar's, do a second canyon in the afternoon and still make happy hour at the Pizza Noodle.

:2thumbs:
again trying to get back on topic

My favorit Zion canyon is Mystery. Mystery spring rappel, that is classic. It was only my second canyon ever, I need to go back. Trip anyone?

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 910 Location: Southern Utah

Randi wrote:

Off to Zion tomorrow!!!! Whoo-hooo!

To lighten the mood a little - here's some picks of last Saturdays California Canyon! http://picasaweb.google.com/advntrinxs/EatonWithTheGGang032208

Wow! Don't know if I would want to come to Zion after seeing those pictures! That looks like a beautiful canyon! Great photos!

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Local Bordello

OK.... I put on my modertor hat again today and split all the crap out of this thread into the "Bitch Bitch Bitch" thread.

Let's try and keep this thread on topic. Any more bitching in this thread and I'll just delete your post. You have been warned. You are free to post, bitch or flame in the Bitch Bitch Bitch thread.

I'll attempt to do this a little more often when we have a train wreak.

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Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 910 Location: Southern Utah

Iceaxe wrote: OK.... I put on my modertor hat again today and slipt all the crap out of this thread into the "Bitch Bitch Bitch"....

Let's try and keep this thread on topic. Any more bitching in this thread and I'll just delete your post. You have been warned. You are free to post, bitch or flame in the Bitch Bitch Bitch thread.

:2thumbs:

:lol8: :haha: :haha:
How much are they paying you! This just doesn't seem to be you? :ne_nau: Not bitchin', just odd! :ne_nau:

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 910 Location: Southern Utah

trackrunner wrote: Iceaxe wrote: But yeah.... It's nice when the threads turn back to to thread title....

....so in the spirit of everyone having a nice day....

My favorite canyon is Zion is Pinecreek.

Easy in, easy out, no riff-raff, some of the best scenery to be found in any slot canyon. Come on.... is there a better section of slot in the entire world then the Cathedral rappel? Only down side is the Harley's in the tunnel.... but I can live with that since I can make lunch at Oscar's, do a second canyon in the afternoon and still make happy hour at the Pizza Noodle.

:2thumbs:
again trying to get back on topic

My favorit Zion canyon is Mystery. Mystery spring rappel, that is classic. It was only my second canyon ever, I need to go back. Trip anyone?

Too much snow in there for me right now! Been there, done that! I was in Mystery I think '94' or '95'? and wore sandals and shorts. The snow was 2' deep and I was dumb and miserable! The bad part was that we didn't get out til 8pm. Went to the lodge to get some dinner and the waitress asked where we were from? I said near St George. She asked if we were going home tonight and I said yes. She said no you aren't! I asked why :haha: She said that Sand Bench just slid and washed out 200 yards of the road! :eek2: Well she was right! I didn't go home that night! I believe it was April? :help:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Local Bordello

Wow... splittin' out the drama sure killed this thread. :haha:

So I'll try a bump.....

Quote: Kolob is over-rated.

I was so disappointed with that canyon on so many levels.....

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AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Boulder, CO

Iceaxe wrote: But yeah.... It's nice when the threads turn back to to thread title....

Thanks for splitting it.

Iceaxe wrote:
....so in the spirit of everyone having a nice day....

My favorite canyon is Zion is Pinecreek.

Easy in, easy out, no riff-raff, some of the best scenery to be found in any slot canyon. Come on.... is there a better section of slot in the entire world then the Cathedral rappel? Only down side is the Harley's in the tunnel.... but I can live with that since I can make lunch at Oscar's, do a second canyon in the afternoon and still make happy hour at the Pizza Noodle.

:2thumbs:

My favorite "manly chest thumping" canyon in Zion is Imlay, Heaps is nice but the final rappel sucks, Kolob is over-rated.

:five:

Pine is definitely a cool canyon, and Cathedral is certainly awesome. Too many people (usually) in there for my tastes though. I like to go to the canyons for escape and a little bit of solitude...

The final rappel is definitely interesting on Heaps; but I enjoyed it. I don't mind big drops. The rest of the canyon is so fun, even if I didn't like the rappel, I'd still find it worth it. The beauty in the mossy section by the iron room was incredible. Reminded me a little bit of the Aussie canyons in the Blue Mountains...

I personally liked Kolob; and that was even after doing the MIA exit three days in a row. Thought it was pretty, and very fun as we had a decent flow. I like canyons that present some challenge along with beauty (if you haven't figured that out from my favorites...)

Take care,
A.J.

Brian in SLC · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 471

AJ wrote: I personally liked Kolob; and that was even after doing the MIA exit three days in a row. Thought it was pretty, and very fun as we had a decent flow.

Ditto Kolob. Great canyon. Some of the colors and the pools in there are stupendious. And the hike out to the Virgin, with the bonus of the classic narrows, perfect. Great long canyon system. Has to rival Buckskin for length and the height of the walls are amazing.

Heaps and Imlay would have to rate right up there too, with their tight twisty narrows.

I could do Pine Creek over and over and over...

I'm a rap and swim kiddie canyoneer!

At least I was...when does the canyoneer membership expire? My last canyon was on Crete in 2006...

-Brian in SLC

AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Boulder, CO

Bo_Beck wrote: Randi wrote:

Off to Zion tomorrow!!!! Whoo-hooo!

To lighten the mood a little - here's some picks of last Saturdays California Canyon! http://picasaweb.google.com/advntrinxs/EatonWithTheGGang032208

Wow! Don't know if I would want to come to Zion after seeing those pictures! That looks like a beautiful canyon! Great photos!

Yeah, Eaton is an awesome canyon (if you can avoid the poison oak. ;) Did you do the slide Randi? Or did you rap it?

Here's my buddy Ken showing how the slide should be done:

Here's mine...

Note: You may have to go full screen as sometimes Youtube has an issue with portrait based movies... (I don't know how to do this with embedded movies though...)

The slide is a blast, but it sure feels like you are in the air a lot longer just after your back leaves the rock...

Take care,
A.J.

AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Boulder, CO

Brian in SLC wrote:
Ditto Kolob. Great canyon. Some of the colors and the pools in there are stupendious. And the hike out to the Virgin, with the bonus of the classic narrows, perfect. Great long canyon system. Has to rival Buckskin for length and the height of the walls are amazing.

At least I was...when does the canyoneer membership expire? My last canyon was on Crete in 2006...

-Brian in SLC

Since it was on Crete, I'm sure we can let it slide for now. You better renew soon though. Hope to see you on a trip soon...

I haven't done Kolob through the Narrows yet. I have always gone up MIA. Had the Kolob through the Narrows trip on my list for last year, but was messed up by the "up to 15cfs" flow story. Was watching the flow for a couple of days, and it was low (<5 cfs.) The day before we were going to go, I checked again, and it was around 20cfs. Nixed those plans...

Hope to make time to do Kolob through the Narrows this year... I agree though, the towering walls are incredible.

Take care,
A.J.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7948 Location: Local Bordello

Part of my problem with Kolob was that I think my expectations were much to high. It was the last of the Zion big three that I did. My order the first time was Heaps, Imlay and Kolob. I was expecting Kolob to be more like the other two in length. I didn't realize the technical section was so short. I was just getting into the excitement of the canyon and it ended. And then our group of "12 of the world's greatest canyoneers" suffered a major clusterf**k at the end of the technical section that resulted in half of us sitting around wet and freezing our ass off for two hours while the other half held a circlejerk. That was the day I learned "Expert Canyoneer" had many different meanings....

The canyon is very pretty....

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Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1606 Location: Provo, Utah

AJ wrote:

I haven't done Kolob through the Narrows yet. I have always gone up MIA. Had the Kolob through the Narrows trip on my list for last year, but was messed up by the "up to 15cfs" flow story. Was watching the flow for a couple of days, and it was low (<5 cfs.) The day before we were going to go, I checked again, and it was around 20cfs. Nixed those plans...

Hope to make time to do Kolob through the Narrows this year... I agree though, the towering walls are incredible.

Take care,
A.J.

I loved my two day Kolob through the Narrows hike a few years ago. One of my most memorable canyon trips for sure. That was in my heavy pack days. Nothing like a couple of stoves warming up the griddle for a breakfast of pancakes and bacon somewhere in the middle of Kolob Canyon. The through hike was the best way to see the Narrows. And I think the narrows of Kolob (not the technical narrows) are as good as if not better than the actually Narrows of the Virgin. The river does add to the Virgin Narrows but as far as narrow towering walls, wow to Kolob Canyon. I still think that Kolob is one of the most beautiful canyons in the park particularly if you do the through hike. Take a camera for sure. :2thumbs: YMMV

AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Boulder, CO

Scott Card wrote:
I loved my two day Kolob through the Narrows hike a few years ago. One of my most memorable canyon trips for sure. That was in my heavy pack days. Nothing like a couple of stoves warming up the griddle for a breakfast of pancakes and bacon somewhere in the middle of Kolob Canyon. The through hike was the best way to see the Narrows. And I think the narrows of Kolob (not the technical narrows) are as good as if not better than the actually Narrows of the Virgin. The river does add to the Virgin Narrows but as far as narrow towering walls, wow to Kolob Canyon. I still think that Kolob is one of the most beautiful canyons in the park particularly if you do the through hike. Take a camera for sure. :2thumbs: YMMV

I'll definitely have my camera along. Glad you had such a good time. We'll likely go light and fast though, and attempt to do it in a day... (of course, we'll be safe with emergency gear, just in case the day thing doesn't work out...)

AJ · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Boulder, CO

Iceaxe wrote: Part of my problem with Kolob was that I think my expectations were much to high. It was the last of the Zion big three that I did. My order the first time was Heaps, Imlay and Kolob. I was expecting Kolob to be more like the other two in length. I didn't realize the technical section was so short. I was just getting into the excitement of the canyon and it ended. And then our group of "12 of the world's greatest canyoneers" suffered a major clusterf**k at the end of the technical section that resulted in half of us sitting around wet and freezing our ass off for two hours while the other half held a circlejerk. That was the day I learned "Expert Canyoneer" had many different meanings....

The canyon is very pretty....

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I agree it's definitely not on the same level as an Imlay or Heaps; and I also agree that the REALLY techie section is done pretty quick. However the beauty goes on and on...

I can also see how a bad group experience could taint your views. Maybe you need another lap through. Want to join us when we go through?

Sincerely,
Just another canyon "expert" :haha: