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ratagonia · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject:

tanya wrote:
Why would you have to replace a helmet after a certain date if it has not been damaged?

I suppose what we need in a helmet is:
1. protection
2. ventilation
3. visibility
4. comfort
5. light weight
6. compact - taking little room in a pack

A foam on the inside of some helmets along with a thin shell on the outside, makes some of the newer canyoneering helmets lighter and more compact than some other possible choices --- but then they are not as safe since the thin coating can crack after the first hit.

Is it worth it to get the safer helmet or better to get the lighter more compact ones?

Helmets are produced under a very strict engineering performance Standard. Any helmet that meets the mountaineering standard will provide a lot of protection as long as you are wearing it. Some helmets might provide a little bit more protection. The most important idea is to find a helmet that you LIKE, so you will wear it most if not all of the time (in canyons).

The thin foam design is a hybrid hard/foam design that uses both technologies to make very high-performance helmets. It still provides plenty of protection.

Tom

Scott Card · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1353 Location: Provo, Utah

I just returned from two days at a Brain Injury Seminar. I gotta tell ya, it is just plain dumb not to wear a helmet. Even a mild traumatic brain injury is devastating. And for the record. I am glad in many canyons for my helmet. I have stood up too soon under a chock stone or log jam multiple times only to bump my helmet not my head. I have had rocks pelt me multiple times from junk raps like the second one in Heaps, the last one entering Phantom Valley. I wear one. YMMV.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7758 Location: Local Bordello

ratagonia wrote: What canyons did you do last weekend? Oh yeah, Leprechaun, the canyon in that story where the guy hit his head and got rescued the next day, should have died, should have been a vegetable, but God was nice, that time.

Yeah... but that was a bit of a freak accident. Heading out to get the mail tomorrow I could slip on the ice and split my noggin. You have to draw the line somewhere.... :ne_nau:

Like I'm heading over to the Lazy Dog Saloon to shoot some pool in a few minutes. The odds of someone cracking a pool cue over my head at the Dog are much greater then a slip in Leprechaun. But I would look really stupid walking into the Dog looking like the red M&M. That would get me a chipped tooth for sure. :haha:

Again... not saying helmets are bad.... just at some point in time you begin to look like you belong on the short bus.

:popcorn:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7758 Location: Local Bordello

tanya wrote: either your wife or the husbands of the other wives there

Anyone want to take the over/under on this bet.

:roflol:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7758 Location: Local Bordello

It wouldn't be the first time that the hot young stripper wife had beat my ass..... :lol8:

ratagonia · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:28 am Post subject:

Iceaxe wrote:
Again... not saying helmets are bad.... just at some point in time you begin to look like you belong on the short bus.

How old are you Shane? Still so worried about looking cool?

We've tried to make it un-cool to canyon without a helmet - apparently we have not quite reached the hard-headed crowd. But please don't take Tanya with you - she's got kids that need her!

Can't imagine yourself slipping in Leprechaun, even the East Fork? Again, I see a lack of imagination, rather than a inerrant canyoneer.

Tom

Wasatch · Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 401 Location: Layton, UT

I would like to know if this is the consenus of this forum to not wear a helmet? For me, I would not do another canyon without one (been wearing one since 04), too close of a call for me in a couple of instances of slipping and banging my head against the wall a few years ago and had a bunch of rocks fall on me in Birch Hollow last year.

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7758 Location: Local Bordello

OK, here is my helmet picture....

As I've said.... I'm not against wearing helmet's, I usually wear a helmet, Everyone should own a helmet. My main interest in this thread was to see how many folks had actually used their helmet.

But, I do think the helmet Nazi's sometimes get a little extreme.

You can call me the Red M&M.

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Southern Utah

Iceaxe wrote: OK, here is my helmet picture....

As I've said.... I'm not against wearing helmet's, I usually wear a helmet, Everyone should own a helmet. My main interest in this thread was to see how many folks had actually used their helmet.

But, I do think the helmet Nazi's sometimes get a little extreme.

You can call me the Red M&M.

Nice red color! Matches Tanyas Helmet. Did you try hammering some dead fish against it to see if it passes the test? :2thumbs: :five:

I've had a few near misses when not wearing my helmet, but as the saying goes.."When the going gets tough, wear a helmet". At least they'll have a handle and a bucket to lug you (or me) out of the canyon! :five:

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Southern Utah

tanya wrote: Bo_Beck wrote: Iceaxe wrote: OK, here is my helmet picture....

As I've said.... I'm not against wearing helmet's, I usually wear a helmet, Everyone should own a helmet. My main interest in this thread was to see how many folks had actually used their helmet.

But, I do think the helmet Nazi's sometimes get a little extreme.

You can call me the Red M&M.

Nice red color! Matches Tanyas Helmet. Did you try hammering some dead fish against it to see if it passes the test? :2thumbs: :five:

I've had a few near misses when not wearing my helmet, but as the saying goes.."When the going gets tough, wear a helmet". At least they'll have a handle and a bucket to lug you (or me) out of the canyon! :five:

Mine is better! It has a ropes for Rescue sticker on it. :lol8:

I think the helmit befits you well Tanya! plus it makes a whole boatload of people happy that you are protecting that wonderful noggin of yours!

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5720 Location: St. George

It was not bad wearing the helmet, but I think I need white! Being an insomniac my eyes are always really bloodshot and the helmet makes it worse! I also kept hitting the thing on rocks where I never hit my head. I am not use to that little extra I suppose.

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Southern Utah

tanya wrote: It was not bad wearing the helmet, but I think I need white! Being an insomniac my eyes are always really bloodshot and the helmet makes it worse! I also kept hitting the thing on rocks where I never hit my head. I am not use to that little extra I suppose.

Would be glad to get you a white one when you give me the word! The Ropes that Rescue Sticker will cost an arm and a leg though :roflol:

tanya · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 5720 Location: St. George

But I like that sticker!!!! :mrgreen:

Iceaxe · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 7758 Location: Local Bordello

tanya wrote: But I like that sticker!!!! :mrgreen:

What does it say? I can only read RESCUE.

If you get a white helmet we will no longer match in the canyons. I'll be the last of the red M&M's :lol8:

:popcorn:

Bo_Beck · Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Southern Utah

Iceaxe wrote: tanya wrote: But I like that sticker!!!! :mrgreen:

What does it say? I can only read RESCUE.

If you get a white helmet we will no longer match in the canyons. I'll be the last of the red M&M's :lol8:

:popcorn:

"Rescue me first and we'll talk about the ropes later" :lol8: