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jumar



Joined: 02 Dec 2005
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Location: Lehi, UT

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Montezuma Caves  

A few years back we poked around in some sand caves outside Kanab.
http://www.my-mania.com/caving/moqui.html
They're really cool, but none were true caves (you couldn't get back far enough that you were unable to see daylight). We were down there this last weekend and found some that are more extensive that the locals call Montezuma Cave(s). (There's a geocache down near the caves). We didn't have our usual caving stuff, like helmets and ropes, bc we didn't think these would go back very far. They turned out to be more extensive than I thought, and even had some interesting little pits. Some one rappelled down one pit using a bunch of poorly placed eye screws for anchors. :roll:

We'll have to go again and be better prepared (helmets, rope etc) and leave my 16 month old with a babysitter :nod: . There was about a half a dozen or more caves here. Add it to my already ridiculously long To Do list.

Most the pics we took you can't see much because there was too much dust in the flash (non flash pics were blurry). But here's a few.
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jumar



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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject:  

We visited the Moqui Caves again too while we were there. These are right by where climbinghalfdome was ice climbing this season (why didn't I get down here when there was still ice??)
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accadacca



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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Location: The Interwebs

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject:  

Wow! Very nice. :cool2:
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tanya



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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Location: Utah

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject:  

Great Stuff!

Two questions... do you have GPS info and did you have to cross private land? I hate those private land issues around here.
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jumar



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject:  

No private property issues that I"m aware of. A lot of locals visit this area.

I'll PM you info on getting to the cave.
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COUNTRYBOY



Joined: 16 Sep 2007
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Location: Southern Utah

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject:  

We have seen those ones from the road and have always thought of stopping to check them out. We also always assumed that they were part of the main cave and tour. (that always seems closed when we go by.)
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jumar



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject:  

The main cave tour I wasn't real impressed with. I wouldn't recommend it. But these 'wild' ones are fun. :2thumbs:
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tanya



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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Location: Utah

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject:  

jumar wrote: No private property issues that I"m aware of. A lot of locals visit this area.

I'll PM you info on getting to the cave.


I would love that! :popcorn: :five: :2thumbs:
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tanya



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject:  

COUNTRYBOY wrote: We have seen those ones from the road and have always thought of stopping to check them out. We also always assumed that they were part of the main cave and tour. (that always seems closed when we go by.)


Are these the ones by 3 Lakes or by the Gift Shop Cave... I guess I should probably just look in my PM box. :cool2:
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Win



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 376
Location: Toquerville

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject:  

We went to Monetzuma's Cave yesterday. One of the fellows is an amateur
historian and he had some good stories about this area. There are no property issues just a couple of gates to leave as you found them. Within the private property they don't want you wandering around. This fellow had asked permission and told of some very interesting archeology.

The larger cave, with the planks, is supposed to go all the way through to the other side. No one with me has tried it and most likely won't. By using a GPS we plotted the entrance and then went out to the JCR and went North for a bit. In the area we figured to be opposite that entrance there appears to be another hole, not easily accessed. I think some of the guys may try to check that one out.

Thanks for the pictures, I didn't bring a camera up to the cave.

On a sad note, the BLM is going to begin sealing these off. Get out there while you can.

Win
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jumar



Joined: 02 Dec 2005
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Location: Lehi, UT

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject:  

tanya wrote: COUNTRYBOY wrote: We have seen those ones from the road and have always thought of stopping to check them out. We also always assumed that they were part of the main cave and tour. (that always seems closed when we go by.)


Are these the ones by 3 Lakes or by the Gift Shop Cave... I guess I should probably just look in my PM box. :cool2:

The ones you can see from the highway are just South of the tourist Moqui Cave/gift shop.
http://tinyurl.com/3jh6g3



From a previous trip down there
http://www.my-mania.com/caving/moqui.html
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