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mrbrejcha · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 169 Location: Durango, CO

Would anyone be interested? The next few weeks are the times to call in for highwater! I like the first weekend in May.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ut/moab_fo/campgrounds/calendars.Par.48355.File.dat/ww-cal-08.pdf

tanya · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:

I might! :nod:

Sombeech · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject:

Where's Alex? That Dawg has always got permits. Let's invite ourselves. :haha:

accadacca · Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 6778 Location: The Interwebs

Yep. :ear:

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 112 Location: Price

Just be careful you know what you're doing. Westwater is a very different place when the water is high.

tanya · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:05 am Post subject:

I have a question Steve...

Is it safer doing rapids with several people rowing or just one experienced person?

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 112 Location: Price

tanya wrote: I have a question Steve...

Is it safer doing rapids with several people rowing or just one experienced person?

That’s an involved question.

There is no substitute for experience. However, some people get it a lot quicker than others. I know a couple of 20-year-old women I’d trust much more than a lot of guys I know who have been rafting for 20 years. Of course, I trained them :haha:

There is typically safety in numbers. If all rowers are competent, there is little chance of more than one having a major incident. But, of course, it can happen. I did watch two rafts capsize back-to-back once. Both experienced, competent rowers.

I like knowing whom I’m with and their skill levels. I don’t like worrying about people. Rafting is a team endeavor, and everyone looks out for everyone else, but when there are new rowers or incompetent rowers, it puts a lot of stress on the competent people. We do that all the time with our college classes, but we pick the rivers and water levels to minimize the danger.

Hope that made sense and somewhat answered your question.

tanya · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject:

soitgos wrote: tanya wrote: I have a question Steve...

Is it safer doing rapids with several people rowing or just one experienced person?

That’s an involved question.

There is no substitute for experience. However, some people get it a lot quicker than others. I know a couple of 20-year-old women I’d trust much more than a lot of guys I know who have been rafting for 20 years. Of course, I trained them :haha:

There is typically safety in numbers. If all rowers are competent, there is little chance of more than one having a major incident. But, of course, it can happen. I did watch two rafts capsize back-to-back once. Both experienced, competent rowers.

I like knowing whom I’m with and their skill levels. I don’t like worrying about people. Rafting is a team endeavor, and everyone looks out for everyone else, but when there are new rowers or incompetent rowers, it puts a lot of stress on the competent people. We do that all the time with our college classes, but we pick the rivers and water levels to minimize the danger.

Hope that made sense and somewhat answered your question.

Do you take real women for students who have no rowing skills at all or only 20 year old children?

soitgos · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 112 Location: Price

tanya wrote:

Do you take real women for students who have no rowing skills at all or only 20 year old children?

I suppose that depends . . . I've invited you before . . . :nod:

tanya · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject:

soitgos wrote: tanya wrote:

Do you take real women for students who have no rowing skills at all or only 20 year old children?

I suppose that depends . . . I've invited you before . . . :nod:

Oh no! I am in trouble! :eek2:

I had better redeem myself and show up next time! :nod:

mrbrejcha · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 169 Location: Durango, CO

soitgos wrote: Just be careful you know what you're doing. Westwater is a very different place when the water is high.

The highest I've done it at was 18k, I don't see it being higher than that early spring, but you never know!

Let me elaborate on my first post. I want to run Westy the first weekend in May, but I can't call in for the permit because I'll be on the Salt, soooo, anybody want to call it in?

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2208 Location: SLC, UT

I am game for WW whenever, I just need about 4 hours notice to get there.

The only trouble is with my house remodeling now, all my gear is buried until April :(

I got an invite to WW in late April already though, then Dolores early May and got my own permit for Deso on May 30th, woohoo!

Anyone wants to join?

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2208 Location: SLC, UT

tanya wrote:

I had better redeem myself and show up next time! :nod: [/color]

That means you have to get a passport and travel to the other side of the world called Moab!!!! OMG!!!

Tanya, you would love WW, especially with Steve guiding your boat. I am always up for Steve trips. :2thumbs:

The man is practically married to Westwater

mrbrejcha · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 169 Location: Durango, CO

Alex wrote: Dolores early May and got my own permit for Deso on May 30th, woohoo!

Anyone wants to join?

Oh yeah, if the Dolores runs again I won't be doing Westy. It ran last year about mid-may but we have a LOT more snow this year.

Maybe we should do Westy in June or July?

Alex · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2208 Location: SLC, UT

I plan on doing WW at least once a month this year, starting June. Will start calling for permits late March.

The highest water I have done in WW is 9K, it was pushy, but very very fun, I would go again with pros like Steve for higher water though