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soitgos



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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Westwater this weekend  

This past week Razor Rock showed it's head for the first time this year and created a new element of the most famous rapid in Utah.

So Alex, how did your trip go? Is this the first time you've seen Razor Rock?
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tanya



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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject:  

Great shot! :2thumbs: :popcorn:

Looks like so much more fun that cleaning the multitude of rooms I cleaned this weekend, the working the chevron at night --- but at least I did not get graveyard this weekend! :roll:
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soitgos



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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject:  

That's 19-year-old Brandi Karren. I fear I've ruined her life. She was talking about another permit before we even got off the river.
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tanya



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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject:  

Yep! Rough life! River Rafting :lol8:
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject:  

Steve, it was awesome! I think I hooked my dad on it now. He still had a sunburn grin on his face. We hooked up with ranger Dean (is that his name)? A very friendly fella and his group, it was safer in numbers to go down.

That was the first time I have seen the razor rock and boy was it mean looking, I snuck on the left of it and it was another successful Skull run for me.

Right after me a commercial trip was coming down and one of the guides (no so average boatwoman) messed up and Skull and got sucked into the left side flush against the Skull wall. Losing the hold of her both oars and barely making it down. She was ok though, right after her a commercial paddle boat, barely missing the Skull hole hit the Rock of shock very hard.

The Sock it to me gave me a little bit of a hassle, put my boat on the 45 degree angle on the side, came close to side flipping, but I managed to pull out. Of course I wanted to give my parents the most fun for their buck and took them on the right of Sock It To Me and the river didn't forgive me :eek2: . Regardless, both my parents and I had an awesome time with good company. Seems like every time you go down Westwater it's your favorite time.

Did I mention fishing? My dad caught about 30 fish in 2 hours. We had a full dinner that night!
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tanya



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject:  

You did not dunk your parents did you :eek2:


How many people I wonder..... quit rafting after they are thrown from a raft into the water? :popcorn:


Sounds like a great trip Alex! :2thumbs:
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject:  

I had a friend who refuses to go rafting after he flipped a boat, too bad I say.

I got my parents plenty wet, but no they didn't fall out "on purpose", it was pretty hot, so everyone was jumping in just to stay cool.
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject:  

This is the image from my video where I almost lost the control of the boat in the Sock It To Me.
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tanya



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject:  

I wonder how scarey it would be going into a hole in something like Lava Falls or Sock it to me? When we were on the trip people said they have gone in often. Don't those holes drag you down under?
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Alex



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject:  

You mean like swimming the holes?

I have done a few swims in the past, they are hard for sure. If you time the waves right though, you can manage it.
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tanya



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject:  

Like those huge holes ... or at least that is what our group called them. The swirling awful big things that look like they will gobble a boat whole! :mrgreen:
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soitgos



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject:  

A hole, in river lingo, is a wave that turns back on itself. Also known as a reversal. It's caused by water running over a rock. It can be a rock just below the surface of the river or several feet below, depending on how big it is. Classic holes are Lava Falls (The Ledge Hole), Crystal, and Satan's Gut. They ebb and flow, but at some levels never release. These will recirculate a person or even a raft. There is a video of an 18-foot raft in Satan's Gut going around for a couple of minutes before it is finally released. Some places just have big waves, like number five in Hermit. The wave builds and breaks. You hit it as it crests and it's like hitting a wall. You hit it when it's releasing and you might slide right through. Others are just standing waves that don't break. A series (called a wave train) is about as fun as it gets.

The amazing thing, and what keeps some of us coming back again and again, is how the river changes at different water levels. That's what makes Skull, well Skull. It changes dramatically, but is always a legitimate class four rapid.
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tanya



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject:  

That's them!

So what do they do to people that fall in one? I was only a second away from going in head first when my boat mate drug me back in the boat! :eek2:
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soitgos



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject:  

Heraclitus: "You cannot step into the same river twice . . ."

Heraclitus was referring to something rather different, but the sentiment is the same. So, in answer to your question, something different every time. The worst case scenario is that a person couldn't break out. The only case I know where someone has actually died in a reversal was in a low-head dam.
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tanya



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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject:  

....so it is really not so bad? How do people die on river trips?
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