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accadacca
11-24-2014, 06:44 PM
FERGUSON, Mo. -- A white police officer will not face charges for fatally shooting an unarmed black teenager in a case that set off violent protests and racial unrest throughout the nation.

A St. Louis County grand jury declined to indict officer Darren Wilson, 28, for firing six shots in an August confrontation that killed 18-year-old Michael Brown, St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch said Monday night.

accadacca
11-24-2014, 07:42 PM
The latest on a peaceful protest in Utah regarding the #FergusonDecision (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/fergusondecision) this man chose to exercise his 2nd amendment rights. -Nineveh Dinha (https://www.facebook.com/missninevehdinha?fref=photo)

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10334324_10152936108116518_7177056300553619141_n.j pg?oh=3d43a6707e38071576a11fa0ed9973b8&oe=5518AF2A

accadacca
11-24-2014, 10:05 PM
St. Louis County Police Scanner

http://ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner

Scott P
11-25-2014, 06:12 AM
I don't know how anyone, regardless of race could watch the video of the robbery and somehow think that Michael Brown was an innocent victim.

accadacca
11-25-2014, 06:16 AM
http://youtu.be/5vF4si3hoRA

accadacca
11-25-2014, 06:25 AM
http://usbacklash.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/michael-brown-with-gun-wad-of-cash-ferguson.jpg

accadacca
11-25-2014, 06:27 AM
http://cdn.bearingarms.com/uploads/2014/09/michael-brown.jpg

accadacca
11-25-2014, 06:31 AM
http://youtu.be/R5ga8xM8W4M

Byron
11-25-2014, 07:15 AM
They want the police to leave them alone, and look what happens. I kind of envy you guys that live out there in rural Utah, or in the white bread towns...you really don't have to worry about this crap.

Scott Card
11-25-2014, 08:52 AM
I feel for the people of Ferguson. I lived in L.A. during the Rodney King riots. I'd take an earthquake over civil unrest any day. Yes, I can say that because after the riots, my wife and I moved from LA to about 10 miles from the epicenter of the Northridge earthquake. We have a pretty good comparison. Needless to say, I'm glad to be back in Utah.

Byron
11-25-2014, 10:17 AM
To me, the shame in all this is that the legacy of MLK is completely obliterated. It simply doesn't exist. And I'm not talking about a bunch of losers/opportunists on the street...No Justice, No Peace, eh? Doesn't seem to be working very well.

accadacca
11-25-2014, 11:33 AM
(NSFW) Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!


http://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8

Byron
11-25-2014, 11:59 AM
Excellent!!!

Iceaxe
11-25-2014, 12:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fDJ6NyV.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad117/TNTRower/GiftCertificatesFerguson_zps41492fe5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1u9LUyw.jpg

http://i.lvme.me/2x9gmn5.jpg

Iceaxe
11-25-2014, 12:10 PM
And on a positive note.... Bill Cosby has got to be loving this..... Not one mention from another women he drugged and raped on the news last night....

accadacca
11-25-2014, 02:03 PM
Video: Stepdad: 'Burn this b**** down!' (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/11/25/sot-michael-brown-stepfather-grand-jury-reaction-raw.new-york-times.html?hpt=hp_t2)

Iceaxe
11-25-2014, 04:59 PM
I'm contemplating what to get on my pizza for tonights reality show... Dumbass in Furguson...

They're starting to block I-70 & surrounding roads in St Louis.... Fencing in the zoo animals. The day crew is out driving around chanting "Tear it down for Michael Brown".

And in Atlanta just on the news a bunch of looters... err.... I mean 'protesters' are waiting for it to get dark enough to 'protest' tonight.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10593004_788218054553298_7667788378276191174_n.jpg ?oh=b4aa92ab560806df0f978c43250852f9&oe=55112467&__gda__=1423017951_df9bfdc0ce20b01854cd7b71f6f28fa 3

accadacca
11-25-2014, 05:49 PM
https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10363578_728119437270076_1839473495741275577_n.jpg ?oh=94a0305138ba357f5661e9347d779df6&oe=54D3CF2D&__gda__=1428056725_c62064926745b4b1b219582a16bbf9d 1

Here's just one snapshot of the aftermath from rioting & looting in Ferguson. Natalie DuBose crying after looters attacked her cake store to get "justice" for Michael Brown. She sold her cakes at flea markets to save up to own her own shop. ~ Via Josh Jordan.

Here's a fundraiser to help - http://www.gofundme.com/NataliesCakesnMore

Here's an interview she gave - http://bit.ly/1uU4BED

Iceaxe
11-26-2014, 10:07 AM
I'm sick of this Ferguson bullshit.... If you are going to pick a cause to champion, at least pick a just cause. I'm sure there are many good examples to choose from, but this simply is not it.

Just to set the facts straight... Mr. Brown assaulted and robbed a local store owner and his business, then attracted attention to himself by walking in the middle of a street, impeding traffic. When the police officer arrived and asked/told/demanded him to get out of the street and on to the sidewalk, Mr. Brown was confrontational and swiftly approached/charged/attacked the police officer's vehicle. At that point there was a struggle and shots were fired.

Gun shot residue evidence proves that Mr. Brown was attempting to get the officer's gun. In every imaginable scenario, that has got to be one of the dumbest actions anyone could attempt. Seconds later Mr. Brown lay dead in the middle of the street.

Now, you can never be 100% certain of what happened between the time Mr. Brown attempted to over power the officer and take his gun and when he lay dead. But I can tell you that Mr. Brown made a laundry list of incredibly bad choices that lead to his death. I can tell you that he was not the "gentle giant" some people would like to deceive you into believing.

There are photos of him flashing gang signs, robbing a store, brandishing firearms, and there are pictures of the under aged Mr. Brown with drugs and alcohol. This was a troubled teen. Being a troubled teen does not mean you should die. But this troubled teen made decision after decision to ignore the law, harass and assault people, commit robbery, and charge/attack/attempt to physically intimidate a police officer. And all this led one step closer to his ultimate demise.

This is not the correct time to cry out about injustice. Injustice would be trying to convict a police officer of murder simply because his skin color is white and the dead man is black. Choosing to ignore the known facts and to attempt to demonize a person based solely on skin color. How would that be justice? That would be clear racism. Racism disguised as justice or sympathy or whatever they can get people and the media to believe.

It was the repeated actions of Mr. Brown and not the officer that ended up killing Mr. Brown. It was his own brash, reckless, lawless behavior that ended his life. It is sad. And he had so many chances to make choices that would have lead to a different result. No one is to blame for Michael Brown's death except Michael Brown.


http://i.imgur.com/1YLKJ6u.jpg

jman
11-26-2014, 11:03 AM
Well said Shane. I'm of the same opinion on this matter. Especially, your last sentence "No one is to blame for Michael Brown's death except Michael Brown".

Cops who are "trigger happy" are a different story but this was not that case here.

Scott P
11-26-2014, 11:30 AM
To me, it shouldn't matter what race Michael Brown was. To me, what race he was has no bearing on whether or not he was aggressive, threatening, violent, or committed a robbery. I admit that some cops out there are probably thugs, and some even do racial profiling (which I don't agree with) but I also know that if you don't break the law (regardless of what race you are) or act like a thug, the chances of having confrontations with cops are less.

I watched the robbery video and as some of the protesters claim, it does not prove that he assaulted the officer or that the officer knew about the robbery (it had been claimed that the officer didn't, but it appears that he actually did, but even so..). It does prove, however, that he was a thief, and that he was aggressively threatening and assaulting people. The fact that a robbery was just committed is motive (not proof) of wanting to escape or resist arrest.

Yes, it was a tragedy and I feel for his parents, friends, and family. It should not be claimed however that Michael Brown was some innocent gentle giant. (For the record, I believe George Zimmerman (who shot Trayvon Martin) deserves to be in jail, but that's another story).

Yes, it is sad that Michael Brown is dead. He shouldn't have decided to rob a store that day either or to assault the store owner. Whether or not he deserved to die for it or not is irreverent in the fact that he was a criminal. This has nothing to do with his race, but had to do with the choices that he made.

I also don't understand what good rioting is going to do. It is just destroying people’s lives that had nothing to do with the situation and making Ferguson (and even America) look bad. Now the KKK is making threats and wanting to get involved. The only reason racism exists is because people want it to. This is applicable to all races and rioting is a step backwards.

I also think it is deplorable that both sides of the political spectrum are trying to politicize this and point the finger as the other party. One or the other political party isn’t responsible for this, the rioters are.

erial
11-26-2014, 01:24 PM
https://storify.com/betakateenin/white-people-riots

ratagonia
11-26-2014, 01:55 PM
http://usbacklash.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/michael-brown-with-gun-wad-of-cash-ferguson.jpg


http://www.kptv.com/story/26316705/cop-mistakenly-posts-photo-of-oregon-murder-suspect-in-michael-brown-rant


But no reason to confuse y'alls with actual facts.

Carry on.

:moses:

Iceaxe
11-26-2014, 02:03 PM
There once was a thug named Brown,
Who bum rushed a cop with a frown,
six bullets later,
he met his creator,
and his homies burned down the town.


In case you're still not getting it....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ga8xM8W4M

Iceaxe
11-26-2014, 02:43 PM
How not to get your ass kicked by the police!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

MiCamp
11-26-2014, 03:22 PM
Wow, so much smug happiness at another's misfortune. This threads kinda like a riot; lots of anger, little connection to the precipitating events and nothing in the way of constructive ideas. A really low point for Bogley.

jman
11-26-2014, 04:36 PM
Wow, so much smug happiness at another's misfortune. This threads kinda like a riot; lots of anger, little connection to the precipitating events and nothing in the way of constructive ideas. A really low point for Bogley.

No, you are inferring incorrectly. No smug happiness at all. Just our opinions on this situation.

Curious - what's your take on our "little connection to the precipitating events"??

MiCamp
11-26-2014, 05:57 PM
Clearly a difference of opinion, the snarky memes (ie the gift card brick and others) are just mean spirited and other than a few by Scott have had offered little constructive discourse.
Accaddacca posted 9 negative posts before he gets around to crocodile tears for the 18th post.
As for any connection to the precipitating events, it's media driven and just like the rioters, is more an opportunity to vent ones anger than an opportunity to offer solutions to problems actually experienced.

accadacca
11-26-2014, 09:35 PM
Clearly a difference of opinion, the snarky memes (ie the gift card brick and others) are just mean spirited and other than a few by Scott have had offered little constructive discourse.
Accaddacca posted 9 negative posts before he gets around to crocodile tears for the 18th post.
As for any connection to the precipitating events, it's media driven and just like the rioters, is more an opportunity to vent ones anger than an opportunity to offer solutions to problems actually experienced.
Everything I posted is from news stories online. Except the Chris Rock video. I never stated my opinion. Were you looking for news articles supporting the riots and looting? I can try to dig those up...? Do you have constructive ideas to contribute? Let's hear them. This is in fact an internet message board, not a debate at Princeton.

I'm just digesting the news like everyone else. I'm not an expert on this case and I knew little about it.

Iceaxe
11-26-2014, 10:21 PM
Wow, so much smug happiness at another's misfortune.

Damn... your life must be sad and bleak....

Sometimes you just have to look at the humor is a sad situation. Try it sometime, a smile makes handling life's challenges and difficulties a little more bearable. It doesn't mean you lack empathy.

YMMV

MiCamp
11-27-2014, 01:27 AM
Damn... your life must be sad and bleak...

Good lord Iceaxe, get a grip. What is this a schoolyard fight? I suppose you'll be insulting my mom next.

I can assure you that your appraisal on the state of my life, while interesting, is about as relevant to this discussion as anything you've posted. The thing I love about you is your ignorance- we've never met, you don't know a thing about me, but ehh... why let that get in the way.

I'm sure you're a wonderful person, full of compassion and yes... FUNNY!!

It's just that this thread is a bit mean-spirited and as I'm sure you've heard 'short on substance'.

If you got butt-hurt over it, I'm sorry and will be gentler in the future.

MiCamp
11-27-2014, 01:57 AM
This is in fact an internet message board, not a debate at Princeton. .

I'm not expecting a 'Princeton Debate', with news article citations and lots of chin scratching while we all say 'shmayy... interesting point.' I was just, and guess am, confused as to whether this is an internet message board or internet discussion board. I always took it for a discussion board and frankly found the discussion on this topic lacking. If it's just a message board, then I suppose I'm wrong and many messages have successfully been pinned by the bored. And I'll take my leave.

Byron
11-27-2014, 07:06 AM
I was just, and guess am, confused as to whether this is an internet message board or internet discussion board.

C'mon man...you're on a forum with a bunch of people that like to play in the dirt. Either throw something down, or mosey over to the Canyon Collective...they're a lot more well mannered over there.

Last May, I attended a big party with 60 other people in the backcountry south of Moab. It was 4 days of biking and hiking. We built a sweat lodge and everyone would come out naked and dance around the fire. A big drum circle, booze and the smell of ganja in the air...everybody having a good time.

In September, I attended the Zion Rendezvous...no booze, no pot, no nudity (uh, actually...) a real wholesome event, and everyone having a good time.

You said that you consider this thread a "low point on Bogley"...you haven't been around here very long, have ya? My point is, if you're not comfortable with a certain kind of crowd, hang somewhere else.

Quite frankly, I'd like to hear what you have to say about this whole matter...considering that you're the voice of reason, eh?

accadacca
11-27-2014, 07:51 AM
I'm not expecting a 'Princeton Debate', with news article citations and lots of chin scratching while we all say 'shmayy... interesting point.' I was just, and guess am, confused as to whether this is an internet message board or internet discussion board. I always took it for a discussion board and frankly found the discussion on this topic lacking. If it's just a message board, then I suppose I'm wrong and many messages have successfully been pinned by the bored. And I'll take my leave.

It seems like you are expecting a lot. Anyone can state their opinion and many have. Nobody is required to write their thoughts in any post. There isn't a wrong or right way to create a message. Have read comments on news sites, Facebook, YouTube or others? Bogley is no different...

As for myself...I guess I'm just an insensitive bastard.

accadacca
11-27-2014, 07:51 AM
KHQ.COM - Benjamin Watson who plays for the New Orleans Saints posted the following on his Facebook page and it has since gone viral:

"At some point while I was playing or preparing to play Monday Night Football, the news broke about the Ferguson Decision. After trying to figure out how I felt, I decided to write it down. Here are my thoughts:

I'M ANGRY because the stories of injustice that have been passed down for generations seem to be continuing before our very eyes.

I'M FRUSTRATED, because pop culture, music and movies glorify these types of police citizen altercations and promote an invincible attitude that continues to get young men killed in real life, away from safety movie sets and music studios.

I'M FEARFUL because in the back of my mind I know that although I'm a law abiding citizen I could still be looked upon as a "threat" to those who don't know me. So I will continue to have to go the extra mile to earn the benefit of the doubt.

I'M EMBARRASSED because the looting, violent protests, and law breaking only confirm, and in the minds of many, validate, the stereotypes and thus the inferior treatment.

I'M SAD, because another young life was lost from his family, the racial divide has widened, a community is in shambles, accusations, insensitivity hurt and hatred are boiling over, and we may never know the truth about what happened that day.

I'M SYMPATHETIC, because I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what happened. Maybe Darren Wilson acted within his rights and duty as an officer of the law and killed Michael Brown in self defense like any of us would in the circumstance. Now he has to fear the backlash against himself and his loved ones when he was only doing his job. What a horrible thing to endure. OR maybe he provoked Michael and ignited the series of events that led to him eventually murdering the young man to prove a point.

I'M OFFENDED, because of the insulting comments I've seen that are not only insensitive but dismissive to the painful experiences of others.

I'M CONFUSED, because I don't know why it's so hard to obey a policeman. You will not win!!! And I don't know why some policeman abuse their power. Power is a responsibility, not a weapon to brandish and lord over the populace.

I'M INTROSPECTIVE, because sometimes I want to take "our" side without looking at the facts in situations like these. Sometimes I feel like it's us against them. Sometimes I'm just as prejudiced as people I point fingers at. And that's not right. How can I look at white skin and make assumptions but not want assumptions made about me? That's not right.

I'M HOPELESS, because I've lived long enough to expect things like this to continue to happen. I'm not surprised and at some point my little children are going to inherit the weight of being a minority and all that it entails.

I'M HOPEFUL, because I know that while we still have race issues in America, we enjoy a much different normal than those of our parents and grandparents. I see it in my personal relationships with teammates, friends and mentors. And it's a beautiful thing.

I'M ENCOURAGED, because ultimately the problem is not a SKIN problem, it is a SIN problem. SIN is the reason we rebel against authority. SIN is the reason we abuse our authority. SIN is the reason we are racist, prejudiced and lie to cover for our own. SIN is the reason we riot, loot and burn. BUT I'M ENCOURAGED because God has provided a solution for sin through the his son Jesus and with it, a transformed heart and mind. One that's capable of looking past the outward and seeing what's truly important in every human being. The cure for the Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice and Eric Garner tragedies is not education or exposure. It's the Gospel. So, finally, I'M ENCOURAGED because the Gospel gives mankind hope."

Here is the link to his Facebook page: http://tinyurl.com/oo9szxv

http://khq.images.worldnow.com/images/6025178_G.jpg

MiCamp
11-28-2014, 11:13 AM
Hey all-

I'd like to apologize for the tone of my previous posts, a bit over the top and my bad. In particular an apology to Accadacca, I certainly misread your posts.

accadacca
11-28-2014, 05:45 PM
Hey all-

I'd like to apologize for the tone of my previous posts, a bit over the top and my bad. In particular an apology to Accadacca, I certainly misread your posts.

No biggie. It's all good.

Iceaxe
11-28-2014, 10:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EeqMfw5.jpg

Iceaxe
11-29-2014, 11:46 AM
The only thing officer darren wilson should be charged with is littering.

accadacca
11-29-2014, 04:33 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/29/395e01c7380c5908814ba20ce1676978.jpg

MiCamp
11-29-2014, 11:44 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/opinion/charles-blow-fury-after-ferguson.html

Byron
11-30-2014, 02:00 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/opinion/charles-blow-fury-after-ferguson.html





Whoever wrote this lives in a bizzare, parallel universe, where all the bad things that happen go through some kind of time warp that rights all the wrongs. Keep wishing things were different, eh? Reality is cold and hard.

Racism and profiling will NEVER go away, no matter how many times they tap their heels.

Iceaxe
12-01-2014, 11:42 AM
The always entertaining Charles Barkley's take is in the link below. The best thing about former NBA star and current analyst Charles Barkley is that he is not afraid to speak his mind.

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/12/01/former-nba-star-charles-barkley-slams-ferguson-rioters-leftstream-media-and-obama/

I think Charles makes some excellent points.

Scott Card
12-01-2014, 12:25 PM
This image really touched me.

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Story here: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=32570579&nid=157&title=the-hug-shared-around-the-world&s_cid=queue-1

kiwi_outdoors
12-01-2014, 01:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EeqMfw5.jpg
Definitely true here in Oakland, CA

Iceaxe
12-01-2014, 05:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VjpVCku.jpg

MiCamp
12-01-2014, 07:48 PM
Axe, why are you so angry? Did someone put too much starch in your hood?

Byron
12-01-2014, 08:22 PM
I think that last picture is tragically hilarious. It's all about being a part of the human race...observing people's perplexing behavior.

It's both sad and brilliantly funny at the same time...why not look at it?

Iceaxe
12-01-2014, 09:13 PM
Axe, why are you so angry? Did someone put too much starch in your hood?

Angry?!?

By any chance was your bus shorter than the other buses at your school? I'm laughing my ass off at the obscurity of some of this... it amuses me greatly.

Scott P
12-01-2014, 09:20 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/544960_10152616519868432_5278720298930937137_n.jpg ?oh=98293862adf8d80698b260c88f0e8486&oe=550ECB65&__gda__=1426812637_8e59bce4ea53f36202b3fdfe934d041 f

hank moon
12-02-2014, 11:28 AM
Truth

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152687483099769&pnref=story (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152687483099769&pnref=story)

MiCamp
12-02-2014, 11:59 AM
I think that last picture is tragically hilarious. It's all about being a part of the human race...observing people's perplexing behavior.

It's both sad and brilliantly funny at the same time...why not look at it?

It may be funny, it may not, who knows?

What I do know is that it isn't real. Sorry a photoshopped fake. Here is a picture of the real sign.

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Here's a link to the full article
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/fergusonsign.asp

Iceaxe
12-02-2014, 12:57 PM
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Iceaxe
12-02-2014, 12:58 PM
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rockgremlin
12-03-2014, 08:35 AM
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HI - LARIOUS!!!

oldno7
12-03-2014, 08:56 AM
The victim here, is a police officer who did his job!

And as an aside--I'm leary of police over reach but the evidence and witness' show that not to be the case.

Scott P
12-03-2014, 09:08 AM
For anyone claiming that an unarmed man is no threat to a police officer:


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205538434408949&set=vb.1494731896&ty pe=2&theater

Iceaxe
12-03-2014, 10:09 AM
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rockgremlin
12-03-2014, 10:56 AM
For anyone claiming that an unarmed man is no threat to a police officer:


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205538434408949&set=vb.1494731896&ty pe=2&theater


Man, that is BRUTAL! :eek2:

Iceaxe
12-05-2014, 04:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gRT2xGF.jpg

Iceaxe
12-06-2014, 03:21 PM
http://picturevip.com/x/images/2014/12/06/hZRFj.jpg

accadacca
12-07-2014, 09:07 PM
http://youtu.be/tJnNt34o8Qs

Sombeech
12-12-2014, 09:24 AM
Aww, little Michael Brown, beating and robbing somebody else. Our dearest angel :

Michael Brown Criminally Assaults and Robs an Old…


http://youtu.be/Sn2eDyaq3mQ

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Sombeech
12-14-2014, 01:26 AM
a few F bombs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng6uMw6Xgwk

Sombeech
12-14-2014, 01:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5Fn7vuB.jpg

hank moon
12-16-2014, 04:20 PM
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Iceaxe
12-16-2014, 06:02 PM
I have issues with some of the deaths Hank listed above.... but Michael Brown is not one of them. Michael Brown got exactly what he deserved. The only thing that would make the situation a travesty is punishing a cop for doing his job.

As for violating someone's 2nd amendment rights, I fail to see where that will help the black cause in any way.